Judging Floyd - Part VI - The Report Card
In Part V, we gave a grading chart and some predictions about what would happen at the hearing. Here in Part VI, we review that rubric and our predictions. Except for the monkeys, things turned out better than we'd imagined.
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The long awaited CAS-AAA Landis Arbitration was held on May 14-21, 2007. To “keep score” during the proceedings, we advised keeping an eye out for the following things.
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In the sections below, plain Roman text is what we wrote in Part V, and the italicised comments are our reflections on what actually happened.
Everyone should like to see,
- Vote 3 to 0 throughout, concluding in a 3 to 0 decision, either way.
- Show a genuine interest in the exploration of the science and scientific testing results, including weaknesses in protocols.
- Weigh the evidence carefully and evaluating credibility of the experts in a way other than defaulting to the USADA position should experts be equally credible.
- Preside over the hearing in a way in which all viewing the proceedings believe it to be fair.
- Be fair in the evaluation of the evidence and credibility of witnesses when they discuss the case during and after hearing, privately.
- Keep the entire hearing open and transparent.
- Refuse a meeting with Mr. Pound who indicated he would seek to address Landis’ statements about him.
- Issue sanctions for process failures during the pre-hearing phases.
- Give Landis’ team adequate and fair opportunity to review and evaluate the witnesses and evidence to be presented before presenting their case.
- Bring and submit the complete analysis of all samples tested whether favorable or unfavorable to Landis.
- Be respectful of the defense and its case.
- Call LNDD technicians so they might be examined on the issue of which technician did what analysis on both the “A” and “B” samples.
- Bring the original hard drive of the CIR machine.
- Admit or concede points favorable to the other side if there is no argument to make, otherwise.
- Do not allow Mr. Pound to have the private meeting with the Panel he indicated he would seek to address Landis’ statements about him.
- Address directly and exclusively the science of the case.
- Do not bring up “white-out” kinds of issues unless immediately tied to scientific theory or practice or protocol directly relating to the scientific theory he wants the Panel to adopt.
- Be respectful of the prosecution and its case.
- Admit or concede points favorable to the other side if there is no argument to make, otherwise.
- Refrain from histrionics.
- Be honest and dignified in the face of adversity but refuse to be pushed over.
We at TBV expect to see
- 2 to 1 votes throughout, but not all one way.
The 2 to 1 vote going each way has to be on substantive issues. Arbitrators/Judges/ALJ's etc know "how to make it look good “‘ without it actually being good. They do if they are smart, anyway. If all the substantive 2 to 1 votes go one way but a request for extended lunch goes 2 to 1 the other way, it might look a little fairer but it really isn't.
We missed the boat on this prediction as the arbitrators by and large, acted with a single voice.
- Allowing any evidence USADA offers relating to the additional “B” sample testing.
- Overruling all Landis objections relating to those samples.
- Refusing to consider evidence of other WADA accredited laboratory interpretation of the metabolite(s) issue.
- Refusing to consider “B” samples favorable to Landis’ case.
- Finding a way to disregard evidence from Landis' experts.
- Determining that Landis is not credible.
- Skepticism if not hostility toward the violation of International Standards arguments.
- Free pass given to USADA for failures to produce during discovery.
- Failing to permit Landis to view anything other than the WADA “packet” on any sample, including the additional “B”s.
- Failing to call LNDD technicians as witnesses, depriving Landis of any opportunity to learn what technician performed analysis on the stage 17 “A” and “B” samples.
- Presenting a strong “the results are foolproof” case from Jacques De Ceaurriz.
- Objecting to any evidence offered by Landis on issues concerning deviations of International Standards.
- Utilizing any and all means to prove the International Standards violations did not “cause” the Stage 17 adverse analytical findings.
- Object to most if not all Landis requests to adjourn so that he can further analyze evidence he has never seen.
- Attempts to make a longitudinal T/E case the Panel can use if the CIR fails.
- Attempts to claim other B sample positives show that the S17 result was analytically valid, even if the S17 result is voided by a procedural flaw.
- Some technical surprises he has kept to himself despite his “open” Wiki defense strategy.
- Attempting to establish breaches in LNDD testing protocols that are likely to affect the reported analytical result.
- Attempting to establish those breaches of internal protocols as violations of the International Standards.
- Attempting to establish that the definition of “metabolite(s)” used by LNDD is inappropriate under the WADA Code and as interpreted by other WADA accredited laboratories.
- Attempting to directly establish the LNDD positivity criteria are either scientifically wrong, or incorrectly applied in this case.
- A serious attempt to dismiss a longitudinal T/E case to ensure the Panel doesn't find guilt on that count because it wasn't addressed.
Bingo, Landis’ team explained the longitudinal case as being one based on mutually exclusive criteria, improperly combined by USADA in a single study.
- Attempting to establish International Standards deviations in execution.
- Attempting to establish that such deviations “caused” the adverse analytical findings concerning the Stage 17 samples.
- Attempting to demonstrate other B sample “positives” do not confirm the S17 analytic result, by showing them equally flawed for demonstrable reasons.
Meltdown
- Exhibiting actual and open hostility toward Landis or his attorneys. The Interlocutory Order comes close, even though most reading it wouldn’t perceive a problem.
- Forgiving and excusing the failure of its own “independent” expert to observe the entirety of additional “B” sample testing while permitting all such “B” samples into evidence.
- Allowing positive test into evidence, but not negatives.
- Issuing Summary denials and instructions to “move on” from the Panel following Landis requests to adjourn following admission of USADA evidence Landis had never seen before.
This may happen with increasing frequency, resulting in escalating emotions and possible outbursts. That would cause frequent adjournments of the proceedings. Similarly, if Landis asks the Panel to consider evidence and his requests are denied, the same emotional escalation will occur.
This did not happen, to the credit of everyone involved.
- Having 2-1 votes throughout the hearing, permitting USADA evidence and denying Landis’ submissions.
- McLaren leaving the proceedings in the same car as Brunet, staying in the same hotel or drinking/eating with him when Campbell is not present.
- Campbell finally and actually “losing it” as he is outvoted each time.
- Voting 2 to 1 to convict.
- Mr. Pound showing up at the hearing, making a presentation at the hearing, meeting privately with any arbitrator or having any kind of press contact where he expresses his belief in the credibility of the lab or the guilt of Landis.
- Attempting to introduce completely new charges and evidence, such as one over intravenous hydration.
- Attempting to introduce comments by Landis, all of which are irrelevant to the test results.
- Mentioning Landis' defense financing in any way.
- Mentioning Landis' public comments in any way.
- Mentioning Armstrong or Phonak's other doping problems.
- Spending time complaining about procedural history.
- Spending time complaining about comments by Mr. Pound (et. al) and leaks.
- Spending time on trivialities unlikely to affect the analytical result. This includes lengthy lists of mistakes on forms that are likely to be ignored unless they are directly tied to a specific analytic error.
- Grandstanding, playing to TV instead of the test facts.
- “Losing it” in the belief they are being railroaded, unless it is obvious to all.
- Making hyperbolic comments outside the hearing.
Outside events can make anything worse. It would be nice to avoid having
- New “leaks” concerning this case or Lance Armstrong in L'Equipe.
- OP “leaks”, results, adjudications during the Landis hearing.
- Tyler Hamilton or Greg Lemond chiming in about anything.
- “Results” of “independent” auditing of LNDD publicized during the hearing or as the hearing awaits decision.
- WADA Appeals should Landis prevail.
Final predictions:
Hue - Landis wins 3-0. The process isn't fair but after all is said and done, it must be just here, thanks to FL's request that it be open. If it isn't just, see below:
TBV - Landis loses 2 - 1 with some tortured logic in the decision.
Back to Part V.
12 comments:
Thank you Judge Hue and TBV for your continuing efforts in discussing and making understandable the varied aspects of the Landis case. Many MANY people I have come in contact with have expressed their appreciation for all of the hard work you two gentlemen have done on the "Judging Floyd" series as well as at the hearings themselves.
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Re Final predictions.
Hue = heart
TBV = mind
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TBV, why so pessimistic? As much as I believe Landis’ claim of innocence, I also believe the arbiters will be professional in their judgement. My prediction is 3-0 in favour of Landis.
I also think the prosecuting lawyers think he is innocent, but they had a job to do.
Peter.
PEM,
What would be interesting would be to hear Jacobs take of Hamilton's case vs. Floyd's case. My gut feeling is they were very similar.
And reading past Arbs decisions, they didn't act professionally IMO. Finding athletes guilty when they KNOW the athlete wasn't trying to gain an advantage is PLAIN WRONG.
Mike
Mike,
My observation is somewhat different. I find the problem, to "KNOW the athlete wasn't trying to gain an advantage", requires (I believe) a subjectivity that is best left out of the process. The cost to prosecute cases that allow for excuses could be enormous. I can side with WADA on the attempt to make the athlete 100% responsible. It provides some objectivity, although NOT a perfect system. It could be an attempt to be cheap I suppose. What I don't find acceptable is the lack of quality in the tests. In this case, it seems, we will not ever know if FL had dope in his system, regardless of intent. The process, in the least, should provide that much. Then we can argue over intent.
Jason
Jason,
Agreed. I was referring to the Zach Lund case and the fact that the ARBs admitted that they knew the athlete wasn't trying to gain an advantage.
I'm not sure I agree with the athlete being 100% responsible. What about tainted supplements? I think one Pro rider proved his samples were tainted and it didn't help much.
As for my Hamilton comment, is the blood test that found him guilty even being used by WADA? I've heard/read they stopped using it after his case although I've never been able to confirm it. If this is true, how could he have been found guilty for a faulty or no longer used test?
Excellent work... very thoughtful and thorough. I really enjoyed reading this post.
In my earlier comment, my reason for suggesting the prosecuting lawyers may believe Landis is innocent is the fact that they themselves did not focus on the scientific evidence in the closing remarks, but on character issues. I perceive this as an indirect admission that they concede to not having a strong scientifically based case. Perhaps this is a clouded way for them to let the arbiters find Landis innocent, without actually dropping the case.
With this train of thought, I have some questions for the lawyers:
If you are prosecuting, must you have a predisposition believing the defendant is guilty of the crime? If you believe he is innocent, do you still prosecute as best you can and leave it up to the judge and jury? Are you expected to be impartial enough to be able to prosecute or defend any case?
In civil cases, must you try to get as much as possible for your client? For example, consider a divorcing couple. You start out trying to get as much as you can for your client. During the hearing, you realize your client is the knave. Do you still try to get as much as you can or do you stop and say this person deserves nothing?
Did Landis have to go shopping for a lawyer that believed him and USADA do the same? Or are lawyers just guns for hire?
Lots of questions. Thanks to anyone who answers.
Peter.
Just for the record before the ruling is released (maybe today, although I doubt it): I join Judge Bill and think the ruling will be 3-0 in favor of Floyd.
syi
I think Floyd can lose 2-1 without any tortured logic. The way I see it the panel is deciding between three things. 1) The testing is not flawed, Floyd is guilty. 2) The testing is flawed, but not enough to give the adverse result, Floyd is guilty. 2) The testing is flawed, and enough to give the adverse results. Floyd is not guilty. I think everyong agrees that case 1 is out here!, so we're looking at 2 and 3, and although I agree the testing is flawed, I don't know wether it's flawed enough to rule out number 2. this is what I think the panel is deciding, and if they decide on 2 then we have to accept he was guilty and the repurcussions are quite big. If they go for 3 then the repurcussions are enormous. Let's just hope if the outcome is 3 that they are strong enough to deliver that verdict. The problem I have is that if they deliver outcome 2 there will be uproar here due to the biased nature of most posters!! I think I'm one of the few who will accept the panels decision either way!
2-1 for Floyd depending on Mr. Brunet. I think all the arbitrators are concerned about cycling and doping, and their perspective on this issue will color their interpretation of the evidence.
Mr. Campbell - the system is flawed and seen as prejudicial to athletes. This is not good for clean sports in the long term as athletes and fans will discount doping enforcement. Vote for Floyd
Mr. McLaren - any deviation from a strict interpretation of the rules is condoning doping. Vote for USADA
Mr. Brunet (I hope based on watching him at the hearings) - We could be facing this over and over again with every positive test. The evidence is clear that the LNDD violated international standards in Floyd's case, and it is public. WADA, USADA, the other ADAs and the Labs need to get themselves in order. Vote for Floyd
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