Thursday, May 17, 2007

Hue- "Q and A"

We are having some difficulty finding questions in the comment section addressed to us. So, at the end of the day, we will try to find all of them, "cut and paste" them a la Monongu and answer them at the end of the day. Keep 'em coming. We can find them easily if you post your questions in the Comment section here.


TBV and Bill
anonymous said...
I made a comment on an earlier post to suggest that you add the names of the arbitrators and both side's attorneys to your glossary page. I think I've figure out who most of them are by now, but it might help newcomers.

Thanks,b
B we will do that.




Did the two technicians offer any conflicting explanations for the delays in the log file? I am sure that the legal teams will be checking on that.

There was no explaination from Mongongu but Ferlat seems to be saying she was making mistakes in some of the gaps and took steps to correct them during some of the gaps.

James said...
if Arnie is reading the posts then he knows I think he and Floyd should take you and dave on a ride sometime...-J

Thanks for your comment and kind wishes, J.
A ride with us is the last thing on Floyd's mind at this point but we do appreciate your suggestion!
Bill Hue

Bill,Do you and TBV have any concerns that your summaries, conjectures and theories might be read by the USADA team?And thanks for all the terrific work from both of you!-Craig

Craig, We suspect they might read whatever they can, including our comments. The case is what it is. Our observations won't change anything. we just want the world to see what is happening here.
Bill

What level of education do these lab techs have (aside from on the job training)? When a lab tech finds a positive are the test results reviewed by a supervisor with a Masters or PhD before being handed over to the ADA, or are the lab techs really just reviewing each other's results? The supervisor (if there is one) doesn't seem to be on the witness list, at least not for today.





Mongongu was an intern before LNDD employment. She has a Masters in microchemistry and 5 years of post masters work in analytical chemistry. Ms Ferlat said she was a student and didn't specify her degree, if any. She was trained by Mongongu.


Do the times quoted in the mornings as the time left apply to this section of the hearing (USADA's initial presentation) or to the whole thing? Do they get a new allotment for Landis' defense, and then another for the USADA rebuttal? If not, how do you budget for time for the final rebuttal, since if you don't spend enough time on the defense, you may never get there?Nomad

The times given are what is left for the entire presentation. For example, if the Landis team used all their time cross examining, they would have no time left to present their direct case. If USADA uses all its time on its direct case, it will have no time to cross examine.They have to factor in rebuttal time and reserve it, even if they don't have rebuttal, ultimately.
Bill

question regarding the clock. at what point does this become an issue for the Landis camp? seems like they are eating up their clock, is if safe to figure when start rolling though their witnesses the prosucution will start eating up more time?

Yes, I think the time in cross so far is exceeding direct.
Bill

Isn't this the American adversarial legal system at work. Both sides choose their weapons, hire friendly experts, fight until bloody, the somehow from this fracas...'truth and justice' emerge?Where is Solomon in all this? And will Landis and any number of cyclists emerge hating the USADA and WADA...the agencies that should be aiding the non-cheating competitor?

The commercial arbitration system was not set up to litigate like this. the system is severly flawed. The way WADA speaks through its chairman and the way USADA practices its "search for the truth" have angered athletes well before this hearing, including those who compete fairly.
Bill

"Is there any info on the cortizone he was taking during the tour? (dates?) I would like to see that layed out next to Bonnie's timeline as well."

He had a TUE for cortizone and he was taking it throughout the tour. We don't have a timeline yet but maybe Landis will bring this matter into the record during his case.
Bill

Does LNDD do anything but sport related drug testing? Doies it do testing for use in criminal proceedings? If so, soes it have a different CoC procedure for those?

They are run by the French government and may have forensic work other than sports but I don't know the answer for sure myself and that information is not in the record.

Thanks for your questions. We will set up a new topic for Day 5, tomorrow.
Bill and TBV






























9 comments:

Anonymous said...

I made a comment on an earlier post to suggest that you add the names of the arbitrators and both side's attorneys to your glossary page. I think I've figure out who most of them are by now, but it might help newcomers.

Thanks,
b

Anonymous said...

Did the two technicians offer any conflicting explanations for the delays in the log file? I am sure that the legal teams will be checking on that.

Craig said...

Bill,

Do you and TBV have any concerns that your summaries, conjectures and theories might be read by the USADA team?

And thanks for all the terrific work from both of you!

-Craig

Anonymous said...

What level of education do these lab techs have (aside from on the job training)? When a lab tech finds a positive are the test results reviewed by a supervisor with a Masters or PhD before being handed over to the ADA, or are the lab techs really just reviewing each other's results? The supervisor (if there is one) doesn't seem to be on the witness list, at least not for today.

Anonymous said...

OK, I think I posted this question elsewhere, but just in case:

All these B's have me confused. Who tested the S17 B last year and who tested the additional B's April past? If Frelot did the latter and Mongongu did the former, isn't that a Landaluze (sp?)?

Anonymous said...

OK, after some searching I did find my original post and your answer.

Anonymous said...

I asked this earlier, but I think I put it in a wrong, older thread.

Do the times quoted in the mornings as the time left apply to this section of the hearing (USADA's initial presentation) or to the whole thing? Do they get a new allotment for Landis' defense, and then another for the USADA rebuttal? If not, how do you budget for time for the final rebuttal, since if you don't spend enough time on the defense, you may never get there?

Nomad

Anonymous said...

I posted this in one of the other threads. Was wondering if you might know?

"Is there any info on the cortizone he was taking during the tour? (dates?) I would like to see that layed out next to Bonnie's timeline as well. Just curious...

And like other TBV (et all) addicts... Thank You Very Much for your time, talent and effort."

Jason

Anonymous said...

Question posted previously:
Does LNDD do anything but sport related drug testing? Doies it do testing for use in criminal proceedings? If so, soes it have a different CoC procedure for those?
Will return here with future questions. Excellent idea: a question basket. You folks are doing a phenomenal job.
Pcrosby