Hearing - Final Sign Off
That's over, and after the drive up I5, back home. Summaries, analysis etc. will follow, perhaps not until the weekend. We're a little burned out. Roundups will continue, probably at the normal rate.
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I have pictures of slides from Young and Suh's closing, but it's kind of a hassle to upload, so that will wait.
One question to ponder: If USADA was worried about Landis "tampering" with data files, now that they know about "save method" in the software, is there a reason not to give him a copy now? They could always run a "method" he provided against their own known-good data if there was any question.
[UPDATE:] USADA has refused to let Landis have his actual data. It has remained in the posession of Dr Botre. Davis was only allowed "remote control" access during the reprocessing at LNDD. Young attempted to argue that was "good enough"
Special thanks are due the rest of Team TBV: Paula, who has been doing roundups all alone for the duration, Marc in Paris, and our guest star Bill Hue, who has added a level of insight that could be found nowhere else.
None of this would be possible without the unfailing support of my children and wife, who have given me all the rope necessary.
G'Nite,
TBV
20 comments:
Thanks for the amazing coverage. It's been really interesting. I was a big Tyler fan, couldn't believe he doped, but after a lot became pretty convinced. I came into this hoping Floyd was clean. After all this, still don't know, but I blame the testing agencies for screwing up big time. I wouldn't have known the story without the work here.
Yep, thanks for the lengthy and fantastic output on the case! Any predictions from the TBV panel on the outcome based on closing testimony? I'm thinking 2-1 against Floyd.
Thanks for the incredible coverage!
Thank you all very much for providing such good reportage and insight into the case - it's been compelling reading. Starting from an open-minded position, I think that any finding against Landis would be unsafe... but only Floyd knows whether he actually doped (I wouldn't want to guess)! I hope that the right result comes out, for the sake of cycling, but I fear that whichever way it goes, there will be a large number of doubters, and that effectively Floyd will ultimately lose, even if he wins.
.... but I really do hope this forces the science to become more regulated, as the efforts from LNDD (maybe the "Mal", French for "bad" and "lab" in "Malabry" are prescient!) are evidently fundamentally flawed, and they should be either fully audited, or closed down until they can prove that they care about finding the truth rather than creating a result.
Team TBV, I tip my hat to you. Landis made the hearings public, but your work made them accessible. I cannot thank you enough for all your hard work.
Thanks for all your hard work this last few weeks.
Appreciate all the work you've put into this site and especially during the hearing. Trust But Verify has been my primary source for coverage.
Go sleep. Fantastic effort by all.
Anon 12.31. Good call about 'mal' and 'lab'. The real derivation is good, too. Malabry is derived from 'spoiled ground'. I mentioned this in the Floyd petition launched last August.
This petition has had 3500+ sigs - including from the Tyler Hamilton camp - and said way back then that this case possibly revolved not on Nazi frogmen but "rogue technicians."
As we have all seen, the technicians may not be "rogues", just poorly trained and not really up to the important job entrusted to them.
http://www.petitiononline.com/floyd/
Just one more vote of thanks for the fabulous work. I hope you realise how much it was appreciated.
I must say this blog has been fascinating and very well put together. If anyone knows of blog awards for reporting/literature let's please vote for a win!
Incredible work!
Best wishes TBV for a safe trip home and a nice long nap. Thanks so much for your dedication in allowing us to "see" the hearing. Special thanks to color commentator Judge Hue as well as Starbuck and Marc. Please let your families know how much the loyal TBV readers appreciate the leeway you all have been given to devote many, many hours to the blog.
TBV, along with his assistants, have gone way above and beyond the call of duty here. You all have done far more than any mere blog, in fact, you have done far more than even the professional media in provididng information and opinions about this case. You have providerd an invaluable service for anyone interested in this case and the broader implications. Have a well deserved rest and keep up the good work.
Hi,
Saw the post above regarding support from Tyler Hamilton. People really still believe that Tyler is innocent?
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Quoting above:
... If USADA was worried about Landis "tampering" with data files, now that they know about "save method" in the software, is there a reason not to give him a copy now?...
Did the Landis team have the electronic data files? In the opening days of the hearing I thought I heard they had received them on the 5th of May. I was surprised the Davis demo did not use them. Do you have a clarification?
You and your team have set a new standard for court reporting. The energy, insights and typing speed have been amazing. -- thanks.
As anonymous 4:53AM said, you have set a new standard for court recording that will be very hard to ever match. I am extremely grateful for everything you have done. It has enabled others like myself tell this story to other audiences.
BTW, We just published a follow up to our post "When science, peer review & independent experts are anything but" our latest post is titled "LNDD: The Chain of Custody was broken". It is written by Roberta Barbalace, our environmental technical editor, who is intimately familiar with COC and the absolute necessity that drug testing procedures be 100% reliable and reproducible.
The issue of LNDD's procedures go way beyond athletes. It affects normal people who, due to the nature of their jobs, must be routinely drug tested and must be able to have confidence that those procedures are handled correctly. Simply put, LNDD needs to be shut down entirely not just have their WADA accreditation stripped from them.
I deeply appreciate the whole TBV team. You've provided insightful and reasonably objective coverage of this process.
TBV's reportage is without peer in this manner and it seems to me that the best of the second tier coverage owes a great deal to TBV. You have met your Groklaw ideal.
Thank you so much for the coverage! I really appreciate it.
Thanks!
Thank you so much, TBV, for bringing cycling fans around the world into the courtroom. I never watched the video feed; I simply read your blog in between meetings and felt like I was right there.
Floyd's insistence on a public arbitration allowed TBV and other media into the room. That allowed all of us to see how truly sloppy (or worse) LNDD’s work is, and how our tax dollars are being used by USADA to support an anti-doping scheme that is quite simply not defensible.
We all want doping out of sports. And I think we’ll never really know if Floyd doped or not. I think we can all agree that this lab’s results should not be the basis for destroying any athlete’s career.
Let’s insist that the USADA get it right. Especially for all the lower-paid athletes who don't have the money to put up a fight.
Chris
Eugene, OR
Thanks for the delightful BBQ of a Medicated Mennonite.
It was a little too crisp.
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