Showing posts with label landis. Show all posts
Showing posts with label landis. Show all posts

Friday, January 11, 2008

CONI OP Hearing Forum Shopping?

We thought this topic was worth its own post.

If CONI has the power to determine that non-Italian athletes violated its Doping Code in a country other than Italy, then one wonders if there are any limitations (such as the concept of double jeopardy) on how many country’s Anti-Doping Agencies and Olympic or individual sport Federations can conduct simultaneous or successive hearings regarding a single alleged doping incident.


The concept of double jeopardy arose to avoid multiple criminal prosecutions through “forum shopping” in order to obtain a conviction someplace....somewhere in the US. In civil cases in the US, successive lawsuits are similarly prohibited by a concept known as judicial estoppel. Multiple hearings in venues with concurrent jurisdiction are often resolved by motion to have them them heard in a single forum as most if not all litigants want to litigate one place and one time, due to the time and expense associated with complex litigation.


However, history tells us that the Anti-Doping Crusade isn’t going to be impeded by these kinds of procedural rules. Recently, Floyd Landis was forced to litigate in France (in absentia, essentially) and with USADA simultaniously, concerning his alleged use of a PED in the 2006 Tour de France.


France simply ruled him ineligible to compete on French soil regardless of whether CAS affirms or overrules the initial AAA arbitration decision. Landis' strategic decision to voluntarily acquiese to the French ban so he could tend to the USADA litigation was used against him by the majority of the Panel when they inexplicably started his 2 year suspension on the date in late January when he voluntarily agreed not to race in France, rather than from the date late the previous July when he voluntarily stopped racing or even from the date the Panel rendered its decision. In the interim, French authorities simply banned him regardless of the ultimate outcome and he appears to have no recourse. Fortunately, the French ban appears to limit him only from riding in France in 2008 and that is probably within the time frame of the initial AAA arbitration suspension pending any CAS decision which might reverse the initial AAA award.


We have also seen OP "investigations" occur at the UCI level and "independently” in Germany, Spain and now Italy as well as to some extent, France. What is very interesting here is that this year’s Tour de France terminates on Italian soil on one stage. Since CONI only has the power to ban a non-Italian rider from Italian soil and cannot otherwise affect their career (for example by subjecting them to a 1 or 2 year or even a lifetime ban) similar to the French ban on Landis which only affects his ability to ride on French soil, any determination it makes (this time subject to CAS appeal because CONI is an Olympic entity whose decisions are subject to that recourse) against Valverde, Contador, Perierro, Menchov, Flecha, Paulinho, Davis and perhaps, Sastre, will effectively preclude them from riding in the Tour de France this year and in "banned" years if the Tour takes place anywhere in Italy as well as in any race in Italy for the same periods of time.


Brace yourself for another round, here. 3, 4, 5 or more years of continuous prosecutions and inquiries, arising from new law or interpretation of rules/authority may result and those "investigations" may remove some or all of these guys from the sport in one or more countries or in total for some period of time or forever.

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Saturday, May 19, 2007

Hue - Landis Testifies

Landis testifies and is examined by Jacobs. The still photographers are going crazy with snapping their photos.

Jacobs takes him through his background.

The acoustics are not good and he is hard to hear in the room. In fact, his voice isn't being amplified at all in here.

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Check out TBV's real time summaries below, but they aren't very good.

I'll check in on the legal stuff.

Didn't using any PED's with Phonak but had a TUE for his hip.

Had a prescription for thyroid deficiency. Said it's a little blue pill "does that help?" Campbell; "Not for me."

Stage 16, he didn't eat or drink enough and like a car, he ran out of gas. He didn't feel well from the beginning. He lost focus. He "bonked" going up the last hill. Last climb 8 to 10 miles up and he lost 8 mins to the winner and dropped from 1st to 11th.

He wanted to get away from the cameras. He had to get motivated but he laid down and ate food first. He took a hot shower-he was cold.

he talked to the press, had dinner across the parking lot. Sat with Axel Merxx and Robbie hunter, drank Jack Daniels and made a plan

Needed to get his time on the next day and in the time trial. he figured if he went tradfitional and attck the last climb and do well in the TT, he would get 3 mins-not enough. So let's surprise them and try to get away the next day. He figured he could do that. He would have taken any one from the top 10 with him.

He took off on the first climb like he would have on the last climb. He didn't use testosterone or banned substances the night of Stage 16.

First hour of Stage 16, there was a brak away and they guys weren't a threat. At the first climb they ramped it up using the team to split the peloton. They couldn't talk to wortk out a plan when they split apart. He then did a 4 hour time trial.

The other guys' team's miscalculated and didn't get him. They allowed him 9 mins but got 2 back on a 5 miles flat before the last climb. They didn't move fast enough and he won by 5 mins, moving to 2nd or 3rd, 1.5 mins back of the yellow jersey.

He didn't win the TT but he got the yellow. At the end he was tired. Didn't use PED's or testorone during or after the TDF

he found out from a Team Director that he had tested positive July 26th. he didn't know how it happened. He knew it was a disaster once it went public. He thought it was a TUE. talked to his wife and told her that is what he thought. no place to hide but later that afternnon he found it wasn't the TUE

Lelangue talked to Jean Marie, it was out that it was a top 10 finisher. press called all Federations, only US Federation didn't deny so it was him by deduction.

he met with Spanish lawyers and issued a statement. He said he had naturally high testosterone produced by his own "organism". He regretted saying that. He got no help from anyone nad relied on the lawyers, who aren't with him today.

Cortizone injections, Jack Daniels stuff he mentioned but he didn't know. he read about his "B" test on the internet through a UCI statement and he was fired.

TBV is up briefly, but loses the thread again.

He wrote the internet post about Lemond. He appologized.

About Will, Landis was in a hotel banquet hall. He told people about Lemond's childhood to prep for Lemond's testimony. He heard Will's call but didn't know he was making it. He didn't tell Will to do it and Lemond called back -Will didn't answer. Landis left and so did Will.

Will was his manager since August. He went to Will's room. He was visibly disturbed. Landis confirmed what happened and Landis told the lawyers the next day.

They fired Will and Landis helped him move his stuff out of the hotel and hasn't seen him since.

He wants to return to cycling. his hip is fine.

He read Dick Pound's statements and Pat McQuaid's.

his wife was offended by Pounds 100's of virgins comments.

his reputation has been effected.

He says he's not a cheater.

McLaren watches him carefully during his final statement.

Adjourned to Monday.

Folks, that is it for me. going back to WSconnie.

Landis cross will be later on monday as there are 2 Landis witnesses that must go Monday. USADA may have some witnesses too.

Odd they would wait until Monday after 3 witnesses to do cross? Interesting.

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Hue - Landis Testimony

It looks like FL will be the first witness this afternoon. I have secured a place in the hearing room , but the rest of the "TBV" crew must stay in the Press room. I appreciate the honor.

Don Catlin is first!!! Wow, who knew? We are elbow to elbow in here but not all the seats are taken. All the still photographers have left, nothing to see here, yet, I guess.

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Check out TBV's summaries for content and I'll chime in on the legal stuff.

Young is doing direct. He is terrific!

WADA positivity criteria is met by the Landis LNDD results but Catlin's lab wrote a letter to USADA in the past defining its (UCLA WADA lab's) criteria and under the criteria in that letter, positivity would not exist. He would write a letter to USADA declaring a "positive" and also noting the previous letter sent on the positivity criteria issue. Nonetheless, he would be comfortable with testifying as to the "positive" status under the WADA code, under these (Landis') circumstances.

Catlin confirms scientically what Papp testified to by anectdote, that a low dose of testosterone can aid recovery. While not earth shattering (because it is well known), this form of evidence actually establishes the fact with the certainty of expert testimony. There was no reason to call Papp for the concept if USADA had Catlin but Papp pleased the USADA "base". Catlin's testimony will please the Panel.

Suh crosses. His cross lacks some effectiveness because Dr Catlin seems to be a very nice and honest man. So, far, of the USADA witnesses, he is the most impressive and gives a very good hearing room impression. He calls the LNDD work "excellent" and Suh, not Young elicited that opinion. Ouch!

Ok, I've been answering reader's questions as Suh continues. He is going through a series of letters Catlin sent declaring indeterminate (the same level Landis has had declared as positives here) with the reservation and reference to the 2001 letter rather than declaring posives as he had testified he would do. Very effective.

The issue of sloping peaks on chromotography is explored and Catlin seems guarded and uncomfortable now. He sees one and gives it a "C" and then there is some back and forth, with both Suh and Catlin showing humor and the veil Catlin had pulled before, is lifted. Maybe a lost opportunity? We'll see.

No, what Suh pulled off is to get the witness loose and willing to give the chromotography he just saw a C- , compared to the one he just was shown, a "true" C. Suh talks to him about the shoulder of a peak (coallusion) but it wouldn't be invalidated in Catlin's opinion. Suh says, yes, but only if the noise could be removed. Catlin doesn't know the instrument or software and he admires the French lab's ability to both tests GCMS and IRMS, that they can't do at UCLA. At UCLA, they don't delete data like Mongongu did.

We are back. the lawyers here but not the Panel, yet.

Suh started slowly, found his footing and scored some cross examination points consistantly. Barnett wasres more time on an authentication issue concerning a USADA document. the Panel shuts him down and they move on. Catlin likes the chromatogram on this document and the argument exceeded the presentation by 4 times. plus a twenty minute break.

Suh scores again by examining on the Zack Lund case. Catlin testified before CAS on behalf of USADA but said the hair loss product wasn't a masking agent but WADA was upset and concerned with his testimony. WADA said "this isn't getting to the truth", as though Catlin's testimony wasn't going to do that or didn't do that.

MAN CRUSH WARNING!!!!

Young redirects.

Leads him through another letter. It is cycling May 28, 2006. It is out of competition and the sample was tested for masking agents, diuretics, HCG and steroids. The IRMS was reported, the GCMS was reported and it was left to USADA to declare whether it was positive. USADA declared it positive and handed out an 8 year suspension by acceptance. Young implies this was the same sample Jacobs redacted and caused the big delay at the break. A combination of the Young Ruse plus Young Gambit, our first double!!!

He continues, establishing Catlin believes the Landis case is a positive case.

Campbell questions. He asks about the survey/study Catlin is doing about supression of natural testosterone by the synthetic ones. He hopes to establish new tests to detect the new designer steroids by identifying natural testosterone supression or drugs used to raise those levels to "normal".

Catlin can't say the longitudinal study shows a natural testosterone supression. Cambell does look like he's seeking truth, whether that truth disfavors Landis or not. That is refreshing.

Young jumps on it and establishes people use testosterone because it is easy to use and avoid sanction

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Sunday, December 24, 2006

Sunday Roundup

News
VeloNews passes on AP report that Gatlin and Landis were the top sport scandals of the year.


CyclingNews.com has insight into the Landises' Christmas at home 2006:

"Amber and I live from day to day now," said Landis in an interview with Sportworld, published on Sunday. "We make the best of it. It's never going to be as it was before; the last few months have been a turning point in my life. The holidays will serve as a mental rest."

Sam Abt in the IHT wrote a story on Dec 21 we missed about the Landaluze decision. As usual, Abt concisely summarizes the import in short paragraphs without a wasted word.

Blogs
The Idiotarian Savant approves of not only yesterday's LAT piece by Michael Hiltzik but also of last week's series and thinks they deserve a Pulitzer.


Gene Bisbee at Biking Bis recounts the story from LancasterOnLine of FL's parents' short lecture tour (with a few added details).


Steroid Nation tells a story of the early use of PEDs.



TheBestEdu has the answer for doping: Hypnosis.

Amphichon is a bit behind his Landis news details, but the outline is sadly still correct:
Floyd Landis is still working to clear his name, having requested on 11 September that the US Anti-Doping Agency review and dismiss his case. (See his arguments here at Box.net, if you’re curious.) Seems unlikely that there will be any definitive answer to the question of his innocence or guilt anytime soon, which is a shame, because it casts a shadow over the entire sport in the meantime.

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Saturday, December 23, 2006

Saturday Roundup

News
The Los Angeles Times' Michael Hiltzik writes an extensive story on the Landis defense, centering on the LNDD lab:

Douwe de Boer, former science director of WADA's laboratory in Lisbon, Portugal, wrote that the Paris lab had failed to verify "according to the minimal WADA requirements" that its measurements of testosterone and epitestosterone were not skewed by the presence of other compounds in the urine sample.

"Therefore, any official conclusion regarding to the T/E ratio…. is and will be premature," he wrote in notes he provided to Landis and the lab.

CyclingNews talks to Leadville organizer Ken Chlouber. Doesn't sound like there's much reason to doubt Landis will be able to run:
If the positive test is upheld, Landis will be suspended from competing in sanctioned races, but Chlouber said Landis will be welcome in Leadville.

"Without question, Landis will still be able to compete in our race. We are more than grateful for him to accept our invitation to race.

Palatka Daily News columnist picks "Elite Eight" sport stories, puts Landis as #3 under the title, "An American (Scorned) in Paris", behind #2 Steelers Super Bowl and #1 Texas Rose Bowl.

Jim Litke of the News Sun is nicer about Landis than he was a while back. (For some reason, the TBV post with his earlier piece still draws huge traffic. Go figure.) In his "Somebody Has to be Best" column, he says,
Not Floyd Landis, whose too-good-to-be true comeback win at the Tour de France apparently was.

He takes the Rose and Super Bowls too.

CyclingPost has a brief quoting Armstrong as supporting Landis, and even briefer allusion to Eddy Merckx doing the same.

Last week's Daily News story by Pete Coffey is now hitting the wires, picked up for example by the Barre Montpelier Times Argus.

Blogs
FloydLandis.com has a post with the press release for Leadville, dated Dec 19th. I think it's been stuck in some bizarre purgatory for a few days. Oops.

Team Swap is happy to correct their version of the "Landis is Retiring" story.

Matt Jones at Sports Talk on KentuckySportsRadio has a Christmas shopping list that includes a book about Lance with a reference to FL's TdF.

ConcurringOpinions, a legal blog, looks at the LAT article and considers Wiki Defense in general; thinks it may get oversold and pollute jury pools.

Apple Project
excitedly reveals Landis uses a Mac.

DerailedUK snarks with the Tour as done by Gilbert and Sullivan. Ho. Ho.

Dutch Mamie-cartoon snarks with, duh, a cartoon. Ha, ha ha.

Stay Free says of the Floyd Fairness Fund,
And I'm thinking of starting a charity to raise money for my property investments, and I wouldn't mind a new TV too! The stupid thing is that people will actually donate to his fund.

At Fat Cyclist, they'll let Landis into the Banjo Brothers’ Big Bad Bulky Biker Bodyfat Challenge, with qualification:
Floyd, yes, you can compete, but you’re going to have to FedEx a urine sample to Botched at least once a month, more often if Botched decides he likes that kind of thing.

Forums
At DPF, there is sniffing that there's nothing new in today's LA Times article, and quibbling about various attributions. There may be some Aspies there. What kind of idiot would follow something that obsessively?

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Friday, December 22, 2006

Friday Roundup

H.L. Mencken of the Day

It doesn't take a majority to make a rebellion; it takes only a few determined leaders and a sound cause.

News
ESPN Top 100 sports moments puts Landis at #3, gives an elegiac telling leaning towards guilty.

The San Diego Union-Tribune's Mark Zeigler rewrites this week's Landaluze story with analysis of implications for Landis.

BicycleRetailer talks about VeloNew's rider of the year, and the 15 lb weight regulation resulting in things like Landis being able to use a power meter.

Velonews letters run 2:1 against Landis as North American cyclist of the year.

HealthDay has an article referred by an emailer about research into alcohol and arthritis -- the possibly relevant, but probably too-speculative-to-be-interesting quote:
Tarkowski is interested in the mechanism by which alcohol might help prevent rheumatoid arthritis, an autoimmune condition in which the body attacks its own joint tissue.

"We have shown that it goes through the up-regulation [increase] of testosterone," he said. "That down-regulates inflammation, which is part of the arthritic process."

Forums
Landis returns to DPF, commenting on the UCI and rider organization.

Blogs
Boulder Report talks about Leadville, Lance Armstrong hizzownLiveStrong™self and Floyd! Freaking! Landis!. He also explains why it's confusing to buy a MTB.

PeakMan talks about the Floyd and Lance show, and is worried about hotels for Leadville.

Binza notes the Landaluze case outcome, and thinks FL may have had some good luck this week.

Vemos, way back on Dec 13, talked about the LAT articles, some interesting old talk from Catlin, and the thought that winning the tour was the worst thing that has ever happened to Landis. Also some kind words for TBV, with this credit-card "priceless" snip:
an informational effort that I think rivals the physical effort of a long distance ride, without the fun and exhilaration.

Can't stop the bleeding offers a strong candidate for Snark O' the Day in it's year end wrap up:
It’s difficult to think of Floyd Landis’s triumphant comeback in stage seventeen of the Tour de France without pondering some of his excuses for his positive doping result. When he first blamed his surgically implanted bat wings, I thought, “You know? I believe you, buddy. That’s why the Frogs can’t participate.” But then he continued naming culprits, blaming the nation’s methamphetamine epidemic, the role of Jews in Hollywood, and Randy Moss’s personal smoothie chain. That’s when I realized that maybe he did cheat after all.

Sammy offers this competitor for SoD:
Iraq's Cycling Coach was kidnapped and killed a few days ago by Iraqi insurgents. Floyd Landis said he was positive there will be a perfectly good explanation for it.

Just Call Me Juice ranks Landis as the #4 D-Bag of the year, but no SoD nomination because it's not funny:
What a jackass. Blamed his high testosterone on everything from Jack Daniels to just having naturally high testosterone. Did he really think he would get away with this?

Friggin' Burt at Doucheblog talks about Landaluze, tells some stories, and gives us a plug.

Rant wishes everyone happy holidays before going dark for a few days, digs into Landaluze and our rant of yesterday, and riffs on the "no miscreants welcome" message by British Cycling.

Fat Cyclist contemplates running into Armstrong at Leadville. Best of the comments:
[Fatty,] If he had been reading your stuff….he’d have hacked your computer by now

Comment least likely to be real:
Lance Says:
Prepare to be dominated at Leadville! You better wear 300 livestrong bracelets!

Fatty gets to Landis yesterday, and issues a challenge. I'm sure the comment by "Floyd" is fake :-), but I think Floyd should enter the contest. Instead of the 40 lbs TBV would need to lose, FL may need to drop, oh, 5-10 after next week is done -- Strbuk's baked goodies will do that.

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Thursday, December 21, 2006

Landaluze Decision, a Rare TBV Rant

I don't do this often...

An emailer sent the following thought, which crystallized ideas I had but didn't write when I looked at the Landaluze decision:

The basis for that decision sounds lame, like they didn't want to let him off because the science was bad, so they picked some minor technicality. We may well see this with Floyd and the sample custody issues.

The refusal to evaluate the technical arguments, throwing up hands at "disputes between experts" is absurd. It means there can be no actual challenge to the execution of the process or the interpretation of the resultant data.

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If this is true, it demonstrates the enforcement process is absolutely broken.

Let's pretend it isn't -- that the refusal was just to provide cover for an acquittal that would not be seen as really condemning the lab and exonerating the athlete, as suggested by the emailer.

If that is true, it demonstrates the enforcement system is absolutely corrupt.

Finally, it is ethically bankrupt for the panel to have washed its hands of the substantive technical arguments made, and then insert opinion about the rider's culpability.

There was no need or justification for the comments made that it was an acquittal on a "technicality." Given the literalist reading adopted of other points, that section can only be seen as a "late hit, out of bounds."

But, of course, CAS answers to no one, and there is no remedy.

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Thursday Roundup

Quote of the Day

A judge is a law student who marks his own examination papers.
HL Mencken

Last Minute Shopping
There may be some openings for the Jan 20-27 Floyd Landis Power Camp. Have you been good or bad this year?

News
CyclingNews carries announcement of the immanent Floyd Fairness Fund; also covered by by flahute blog, skeptically.

After all is said, VeloNews picks Landis as top North America cyclist of the year.

LancasterOnline cover Paul and Arlene Landis (the parents) talking to the Rotary Club about their experience, but not about the case. In another story, Arlene says she's "never felt so prayed for."

Philly.Com is representative of many outlets picking up the Landaluze story and its possible implications for FL's case.

AP via IHT has Bordry dropping the separate French case against Landaluce, and Landis getting the last word.

Different AP/IHT story quotes British Cycling head Brian Cookson, warning those involved in current doping scandals to stay away from the 2007 TdF.
"This will be a historic event, in the heart of one of the world's great cities, a fantastic opportunity for our sport," British Cycling president Brian Cookson said. "We really do not want to see this tarnished by a repeat of the doping scandals of 2006, so, frankly, we urge all those with involvement in various investigations to stay away."

The story of "Lance vs. Landis" in the Leadville 100 hits the big time with a short Sal Ruibal piece in USA Today.

Eurotrash Thursday at PezCycling has two mentions of Landis. One concerns yesterday's annoucement of the Landaluze descision, the other is regarding former Phonak director John Lelangue and his new gig behind the mike.

CyclingNews Letters, late in the day, think Landaluze doesn't help as he's branded a doper who got off on a technicality; and it takes gall to ask people to pay for getting a doper off on a technicality. And a long string debating Armstrong and the Basso signing.

Forums
Over at the DP Forums spirited debate continues over the FFF and athletes' rights. Will weighs in with his opinion in response to the following from the always vocal chris t.
Athletes rights for due process is important, but less important than athletes rights to compete on their natural abilities and accept their rewards according to achievements.

To which Will replies:
You are dead wrong on this. Why can't they be equally considered? Take due proces a step further. Athletes have a right to a fair forum, accountability of those who they trust to test and discipline them as well as harmonized programs that oversee the whole process independant of where a problem springs up.

Also at DPF, we get some numbers and a the start of a discussion about economics of testing.

Puppies of the Day
In a DPF thread about Jeanson, Steve in ATL comes up with a new image:
"as Dear and Fluffy as Floyd"

No response to my suggestion for T shirt motto: "Daily Peloton Forums: Fluffy as Floyd!"

CyclingForums has the following endorsement of the USPS, non-cycling division:
> Eric Hollenbeck wrote:
> > Floyd Landis
> > Murietta CA 92562

>
> > Trust USPS to take care of the rest ;-)
> > Bill Bryson in one of his books talks about oddly (incompletely)

> > addressed mail still reaching him.
>
> I'd address it as:
>
> Floyd Landis, Winner of the Tour de France
> Murietta CA 92562


Strangely enough, that would probably work. I had a friend in Utah
that would receive mail with nothing more for an address than the zip
code and his nickname! Small town = famous person

Blogs
Steroid Nation looks at Landaluce, and says:
Sport has moved not only into the business realm, but inevitably into the forensic (or legal) arena.

Gone are the says when the fellow who hit the tape first won the race. As with the 2006 Tour de France, winners may not be declared for months after an event.

One can expect the same forensic issues to pop up now in sports: lengthy docket, political influence, twisted logic, decision based on trivia. There is no going back. Sport has entered into the forensic, bureaucratic era, never to return.


Steroid Nation also looks at the British Cycling pronouncement that dopers should not come to next years TdF, and says,
Two thoughts:

1. If only 'clean' cyclists need apply for the 2007 Tour de France (starting in London) who will show up? Two kids with training wheels, a guy on a tricycle, and a clown on a unicycle?

2. Or any number of cyclists will show up, on bicycles built for 2. One seat for the rider, and one seat for his lawyer.

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Podium Cafe looks at Landaluze and Landis, and isn't thrilled at the technical outcome, while still thinking it helps Floyd.

Sports Publications
ponders the fate of Floyd Landis.

TdfBlog looks at Landaluze too.

YardBarker looks at Landaluze andLandis' comments with a jaundiced eye:
Apparently a lab was not up to UCI standards, and a fellow cyclist, Landaluze was cleared after 18 months because of this. The type of mix up is still unclear.

Floyd had this to say,

"Going through what I am now, I feel personally for Landaluze and hope that everyone recognizes that it has taken him 18 difficult months to clear his name from what was revealed to be a grievous error by the LNDD ... The track record of scientific misconduct at Chatenay-Malabry seems to grow by the day."

What exactly is scientific misconduct anyway? One of the technicians forgot to take off his goggles? Too bad for Floyd that nobody trusts him, and we all stopped listening months ago.



Dugard reminisces about his top 5 tour moments of 2006, and plugs his books in time for last minute shopping.

Neil@Road has some more pix of the Witt Memorial.

Snark O' The Day
MKiecker snarks about the non-attempt and Landis trying a fixie:
As the track is getting cleared Zabriskie and Landis walk down to talk to Roger Young, etc. Roger pulls out one of his pace lining track bikes and the two of them take a look. With his jeans cuffed up, sweatshirt and tennis shoes still on Landis tosses a leg over and begins to ride. He quickly made his way off the apron to the banks and ramped it up. As he came around it was evident that Landis has no idea what a fixed gear bicycle is or how to ride on the track. He looked like he tried to coast but luckily because he wasn't clipped-in dropped his legs and just let the cranks spin round-de-round down on the apron at speed. After many people were gasping at the thought of being able to watch the doper break his other hip he moved back up on the banks and got his feet on the pedals. However now he's pedaling so god damn slow he's about to pedal strike and crash. Coming off the banks back to the apron he made it back unharmed. Stick to your patches Landis; you seem to know those much better then riding the track.

And in Conclusion
C (lee) Z has a friend who came around for a while yesterday.

Warning: the red pants look like they could be loaded.

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006

Some details in decision, bad for Landis

We made an Engrish version of the decision, and the continuation of this post discusses some of the points made that seem important to TBV.

The things we've noted so far are negative, because we look for trouble first. I'm kinda out of time to look further. If folks note other points and post comments, we'll try to update later tonight.

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Let's begin with the good news. We now have a precedent where clear, admitted violation of the lab standard (SIL/ISL) can be used to invalidate test results and get an athlete off. If there are clear violations in Landis' case that De Ceurriz and Saugy will admit, then it could be a short process.
We're not sure if any of the discrepencies noted so far are of that clarity and level of importance, but it's possible.

On to the troubling stuff. Apologies if this reading seems excessively bleak, but momma taught me to look for cars before crossing the street.

Paragraphs 70-71 say there are duelling experts, De Boer and De Ceurriz, and they'll believe De Ceurriz. None of De Boers's LDP complaints are considered.
70. The Formation notes the existence of a dissension between the experts. While it Dr. Saugy estimates that the file made it possible to identify the implied steroids, Dr. of Boer considers as for him that the elements of which it laid out were insufficient. referees consider that the testimony of Dr. Saugy is plausible and that the demonstration made by Dr. de Boer does not arrive by invalidating its analysis.

71. Consequently, the Formation estimates that Mr Landaluce did not show the existence of a violation of the 5.2.6.1 point of the SIL and which it thus did not arrive to to reverse the presumption according to which the analysis of the LNDD had been carried out in code of practice, such that they result from the 5.2.6.1 point of the SIL.

Paragraph 72-76 dismiss De Boer's arguments about a 0.8 tolerance, and says that is already factored in, and not relevant when it's not a threshold test.
72. Under the point 5.4.4.1 .3 of the SIL: ´The Laboratory will be held to reach, both for the Substances without threshold substances with threshold, Minimal Limit of definite Performance Necessary for detection and identification of the substance or for the demonstration of its presence beyond the tolerated threshold (if necessary)¡.

73. Dr. de Boer estimates that the value of the uncertainty of 0,8 presented by the LNDD would be insufficient and should be 1,35. It states in addition that the fact that an index of uncertainty was given would show that the LNDD would have considered to be in presence of a substance with threshold insofar as uncertainty would be taken into account only for the substances with threshold. Dr. de Boer shows the existence from a variation compared to not 5.4.4.1 .3 of the SIL.

74. Prof de Ceaurriz and Dr. Saugy estimate as for them that this value, used by many laboratories, would be in conformity with the point 5.4.4.1 .3 of the SIL. In its declaration of July 14, 2006, Dr. Saugy considers that it is not a question of a measurement of a substance with threshold but of a method of confirmation based to quantitative measures, of which it goal is to show the qualitative origin of the introduced product.
The UCI makes the point that it is not a question of a substance with threshold insofar as the simple one exogenic presence of testosterone is enough. The isotopic analysis would aim only to to show the exogenic nature of the product, without being concerned with its quantity.

Paragraph 76 seems to be addressing the "Metabolite(s)" question in a way Landis won't like.
76. To the support of its allegation, the UCI refers at the 5.4.4.3 point of the SIL which indicates that:

´In the majority of the cases, the identification of a prohibited substance or metabolite (S) or marker (S) associated is enough so that a result is declared of analysis abnormal. Concept of quantitative uncertainty defined in the ISA/CEI 17025 is thus not applicable here. […]

In the case of the substances with threshold, it is necessary to consider at the same time uncertainty on identification and uncertainty on the demonstration of the presence of the substance with concentration higher than the threshold¡.

Paragraph 78 again says that the panel can't judge the science, so they accept the status quo that it is presumed correct.
78. The Formation notes that there is not on the matter any precise method and that them experts present at the time of the Audience did not agree on a value of uncertainty with to take into account for the isotopic analysis.
79. The Formation estimates that Mr Landaluce did not reverse the presumption according to which the LNDD conformed to the code of practice. Indeed, experts quoted by Mr Landaluce, if they showed their dissension with the method of calculation adopted by the LNDD, therefore did not reverse the presumption according to which analyses conformed to the point 5.4.4.1 .3 of the SIL. The Formation thus estimates that Mr Landaluce did not report the proof of a variation compared to the point 5.4.4.1 .3 SIL.

Paragraph 82-83 again takes De Ceurriz word over De Boer on retention times and spectrographic analysis.
82. In addition, Dr. de Boer indicates to have received on August 29, 2006 a document containing the evaluation of times of retention concerning the identification of the implied steroids in the analysis of the sample B. It observes however that no information him would have been transmitted being the data of spectral mass and identification of steroids implied in the analysis of sample A. Dr. de Boer estimates in consequence which there would be a variation compared to the 5.4.7.3 point of the SIL and with technical documents TD2004EAAS and TD2003IDCR.

83. The Formation notes once again the existence of a divergence of opinion between experts present at the time of the Audience. Dr. Saugy states indeed that information necessary to the identification of these products would have been provided by the LNDD. This analyze which emanates from an expert enjoying a considerable experiment in it field is completely plausible. Consequently, the Formation considers that Mister Landaluce did not reverse the presumption according to which the LNDD would have conformed at the 5.4.7.3 point of the SIL and the document techniques TD2004EAAS and TD2003IDCR.

Paragraph 85-87 does the same thing on delta units:
85. According to Dr. de Boer, this technical document would impose that the values differ from significant manner of three units delta or more. In addition, being a value threshold, the SIL would impose the analysis of three aliquot or, on the assumption that, as with particular, only one case aliquot would be available, triple analyzes this one.

86. Prof de Ceaurriz and Dr. Saugy estimate for their part that a measurement in triplicat of the sample is not necessary and only one such requirement, which would not exist with remaining, would be on the contrary problematic insofar as the volume of urine necessary would not be available. They indicate in addition, that it would not be about one measure with threshold requiring the analysis of several samples.

87. The Formation notes, here also, the existence of a divergence of appreciation between experts and considers that Mr Landaluce did not reverse the presumption according to which the LNDD conformed to technical document TD2004EAAS.

All told, it appears that unless De Ceurriz is willing to recant his position, the panel dismissed any scientific arguments. That is, no scientific argument about the correctness of the test methodology or interpretation is really entertained, and there is no way to impeach a laboratory that won't confess.

The bright side remains that the LNDD seems to have made a lot of the silly mistakes that could be easy enough to use to grant a "acquittal by technicality". The bad news is that the system is paradoxically unable to address substantive scientific questions that would actually get at the truth value of the accusations. Thus, a truly innocent athlete might be better off trying to find the whiteout rather than attempting to actually prove he didn't do anything.

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Wednesday Roundup

News
AP via IHT reports Landaluze victory;
CAS upholds acquital based on procedural errors by LNDD. That might be a first. AFP report via Supercycling. The press release on the CAS site is accessible on this page (thanks Gene). The decision is published in French only; TBV provides a pitiful machine translation, objective commentary, and an opinionated rant.

Responding quickly via his own press release,

Floyd Landis said, “The [Court of Arbitration for Sport] CAS decision to clear Iñigo Landaluze of testosterone doping charges on the basis of violations of testing procedure by the [Laboratoire National de Dépistage du Dopage] LNDD strengthens my contention that the tests conducted on my sample were handled in an incompetent fashion and analyzed on the basis of flawed ‘science.’ The track record of scientific misconduct at Chatenay-Malabry seems to grow by the day. Between the CAS’s Landaluze decision, the Vrijman Report castigating the lab for its leak of false information regarding Lance Armstrong’s 1999 samples, and the major errors that we have pointed out in the handling and analysis of my Stage 17 sample any person committed to fairness and common sense should be able to look at this objectively and say that this lab should not be accredited and the case against me dropped.

Going through what I am now, I feel personally for Landaluze and hope that everyone recognizes that it has taken him 18 difficult months to clear his name from what was revealed to be a grievous error at the LNDD. With this development on the back of a similar decision by the Irish Sport Anti-Doping Disciplinary Panel to clear Irish 1500 meter runner Gareth Turnbull of testosterone doping charges – after terrible personal cost to him and his family – it is difficult for any reasonable person to understand why Anti-Doping Organizations and International Sports Federations continue to waste huge amounts of public money and resources on vendettas that ultimately damage the cause of fairness and anti-doping in sport.”

AP picks up Landis' reaction; this story is all over the place, being picked up as much as any favorable article I can recall.

Bloomberg runs with the story and catches the implications.

Our instant analysis is this is good news that might get oversold. The decision is reported to be very skeptical of the claims of innocence, and says it is an acquittal on a technicality. That would not be a good result for Landis. The CAS release also says that the decision rejected all of the other defenses offerered. That might be bad new for Landis, depending on what the other defenses were, and why they were rejected. An english translation of the French decision would help.

EPSN Mag rates Landis #3 sports story of the year.

The Tucson Citizen carries representative version of the AP story about Landis competing in the Leadville 100 next summer. It's newsworthy, and picked up by Cyclisme, in French.

CyclingNews has a longish interview with Genevieve Jeanson, in which she touches on the cost of defense as a motivation in settling. She seems happy to be out of cycling.

Unison.ie (registration required) on Dec 17 tells the story of Gareth Turnbull, an Irish middle distance runner accused of high T/E ratios. He was eventually acquitted, and is the case that sparks the "alcohol affects the ratio" concern. He's bitter and diappointed by his federation, which accepts no chastisement. [tip from emailer JAB]

Forums
At DPF, lively discussion about the FFF and the AFO. Major skeptic Chris_t is unhappy he doesn't get more attention here at TBV.

Blogs
Dirt Pedaller notes confusion about Leadville sanctioning and Landis suspension issues in coverage at VeloNews. The race is NORBA sanctioned, but it's not a points race. If you understand the intricacies, it might be clear, but I don't get it yet. Is NORBA just providing insurance? Do you need a NORBA license to participate?

Magellan (Explore for Truth) notes that Landis sees the acquittal of Landaluze as positive and links the AP story...

Ramblin' Egg
notes the Landaluze descision and how it may effect people's opinions of FL and others thusly accused.

Dugard runs into Floyd getting coffee, and thinks he's looking pretty relaxed and confident -- and planning to win Leadville outright.


SportsPickle snarks up a Landis movie, with Merriman.

Rant first wants to know where to send the check to the FFF, then he goes over today's various stories. He's less characteristically pessimistic than TBV.

PJ makes a speeding analogy.

Vanderhoot mulls FLandis some more, refs TBV and Rant, but comes down again in favor of life bans. Also, first hand positive gossip, and second hand condemnation.

Nashville Cyclist
compares BALCO cases with WADA discipline, and likes BALCO better. Good read.

PodiumCafe passes on the story of Zabriskie's record non-attempt, and Landis trying a fixie.

Activeness (for endurance athletes) cites the Landis case, and plugs TBV. We linked there yesterday.

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006

Corrections

In Sunday's TBV, Mr. Pound, the head of WADA, was quoted in a Daily News article as saying about Landis,

He has to find some way to overcome the fact that there is an A and B sample that is up to its eyeballs in testosterone.

Numerous readers (and blogs) have pointed out that Landis' testosterone values, reported in the Lab Documentation Pack at USADA_101 and USADA_288 for the A and B sample respectively, are 45.4 and 45.7 ng/l, which are well within the range of normal. The statement that any of Landis's samples is "up to it's eyeballs in testosterone" is factually incorrect.

TBV regrets Mr. Pound's error, and hopes this does not reflect his command of other facts in the case.

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Tuesday Roundup

Quote of the Day

"Too much! Too much! Too much!"


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News

LA Times (registration required) reports on the opening of the Floyd Fairness Fund. It's way down under "MISCELLANY". Still no link or deeper details. Maybe this isn't the official announcement but a teaser. DPF now has a thread for discussion. Expect a few "how dare you!" comments there. Ah, here's one now, from Berger at SportsBusinessRadio.

The article and a comment below say,
Tour de France champion Floyd Landis is seeking help to meet the expense of fighting the doping charges against him. A spokesman for the cyclist said he has established the Floyd Fairness Fund, which aims to raise more than $2 million in a public appeal, to help pay his bills for legal assistance and scientific experts.

Landis says he has already spent $150,000 to defend himself against the charge that he doped with testosterone during his victorious ride in the race this summer. Landis maintains he is innocent.

Landis says he will also start a separate entity, tentatively called the Athlete Fairness Organization, to help wrongly accused athletes fight doping charges and lobby for improved protection for accused competitors.

[courtesy M. Hiltzik]

It seems like AFO could also mean Athletes F-ed Over. As long as we don't confuse it with the ASO, we'll be OK.

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The Daily Peloton covers the Witt Memorial Cycling Classic with an article by Cathy Mehl....
On a day of cool temps and cloud-filled skies, a large crowd gathered to catch a glimpse of cycling stars from the road and track as they came together to raise money for the California Firemen's Fund at the inaugural David Witt Memorial Holiday Cycling Classic in the San Diego Velodrome. However, there was much more than mere glimpses going on--it was a rare opportunity to walk up to the likes of Floyd Landis, Dave Zabriskie, Sarah Hammer and Bob Roll, shake hands and get your photos snapped as these cycling stars spent a casual day hanging around the track, raising funds for a great cause.

FL's hometown Lancaster Online.com Local Sports weighs in on the confusion from this weekend's interviews and yesterday's clarification from Michael Henson.....
- Will the outcome of a hearing in January send Tour de France winner Floyd Landis into retirement? There seems to be some uncertainty about the Farmersville native’s intentions after a pair of stories appeared on the cyclingnews.com Web site this week

Following up, an emailer provides a link to the Outside interview with Armstrong from which we got a quote yesterday by a different route.

Steve Rushin of SI has Landis in his year's snarky list of bad sports stories.

Blogs
Francine's hip is recovering from replacement. This is the kind of blog reference to Landis we'd been hoping to read over the winter.

Dugard talks about the FFF, frugality, Mr. Pound's fact-challenged ejaculation, and gives TBV a plug before talking about seasonal movies - omitting my fave, grrr. In a comment, Cathy Mehl writes of the Witt Memorial:

I went to the track race on Sunday and Floyd was in fine form--laughing, joking with everyone, racing against Friskie Zabriskie, even took a turn with the mike to interview Bob Roll. While his financial situation is probably getting more and more grave by the day, he is still able to meet his fans, pose for photos and sign, sign, sign. He was really great on Sunday. Rumor has it that this event was originally to be held at the Home Depot velodrome, but AEG didn't want to have anything to do with Floyd. Guess this means he won't be invited as a guest at Tour of California, either.

BTW, the fund that is being set up is to help him, but to help other athletes, too, that may not have the resources to fight a doping charge. I think FL is determined to go down fighting, and at least make the attempt to ensure that changes are made in the system so this doesn't happen to someone else.

Rock on, Floyd! He's an incredibly real person; you won't meet anyone more authentic than Mr. Landis.


Rant takes Mr. Pound up on his claim that he has, "no interest whatsoever in having an innocent person convicted of doping."

James Raia's PR blog goes over recent Landis news

Biking Bis says it's official, Landis and Lance at Leadville, with a link to a press release, it must be true. Robbie Ventura is coaching. UltraRob pats himself on the back breaking the story. This is now bouncing all around the MSM as well, mostly rewrites of the press release.

GoClipless muses on the Leadville rumour. Also picked up by The Goat at Backcountry, who thinks it might be a "cleaver" trick by the LT100 folks to drum up interest. MTB always was a bit more brutal than that knife like roadie stuff, so I guess the cleaver analogy works. I'm a little confused about the eligibility, though -- it is a NORBA sanctioned race, so where does that leave Landis? Anyone who understands, please let me know.

JockoHomo passes on that Mad Magazine rates Landis the #10 dumbest story of the year.

VeloGal chastises the media for mangling the Landis interviews over the weekend, and passes on this web funny featuring Floyd performing in a seasonally appropriate and Will Ferrel approved manner.

Activeness points us to the secret anti-performance enhancement agency, WAC, and to the Daily News article. It would be funny if Floyd left them a comment.

Snark o' the Day
Nigel Wynn chomps on the record non-attempt, and gives a hint why Landis and Z-man were on their road bikes at the Witt Memorial:
He didn't do it because he didn't have the right bike. Sounds like a massive excuse to us. But Landis got bucked off a track bike when he went to do a couple of laps of the track, which makes things better. Get used to riding fixed, Floyd, you'll be working as a bike messenger next year.

This is a followup to his previous snark.

Forums
At DPF, Kitty on Wheels comes up with a grab bag of relevant quotes from riders we hadn't seen before, crediting ProCycling as the original source:
Dave Zabriskie: “The riders have a small voice. We are not unionised. We don’t come together well. We need a strong union so we can all be on the same page. I was really disappointed at the Tour when the director of the race was laying down the rules, and we were all in a room. We had all the teams and all the riders together, but no one said anything, even though that’s what was on everyone’s mind. It would have been a good time for someone to stand up and say, ‘What the f**k. Let’s talk about it while everyone is here’ …I’m in a precarious situation because Floyd is a good friend of mine and Basso was a team-mate. I love them both. For the moment, I have to believe Floyd. I’m not scared, it’s just a lot of things don’t make sense right now…”

Sean Petty, CEO of USA Cycling: “…the riders don’t have much of a voice right now. I know the riders are concerned because this can, and will, affect their livelihood because you are not going to get these $15-million-a-year sponsors to step up if we can’t show that we are making the effort to run a clean sport…”

Jonathan Vaughters: “…most of the riders are caught in the crossfire. The more they talk about doping, the more attention it gets in the media, which is going to destroy their sponsorships…. Spouting your mouth off as a rider only breeds contempt. It’s not because everyone is a doper, it’s because you are alienating sponsors by speaking out and sponsors are the lifeblood of the sport.”

Tony Cruz: “In a way there is kind of an unwritten code where certain things aren’t talked about. [Floyd’s] a good guy. He’s a smart guy. I don’t see how that could have happened. He’s too smart to be that stupid. I think there is something really fishy there and it bums me out…. I really think there has to be a union for cyclists where we can all stand up and have a voice. We need to protect ourselves, we need to protect our sport more than it currently is.”

Riffing
"Floyd Fairness Fund?"

That's one F-ed up name, man.

Is this part of that company on Sesame Street that started as "Peter Piper's Products that begin with the letter P", then renamed, "Sam's S Stuff Store"?

What's the deal with alliteration anyway? Always aligned with assonance, albeit awkwardly.

[ba-ding]

Thanks, we'll be here all week. You've been great!

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Monday, December 18, 2006

Monday Roundup

Public Clarifications

Michael Henson, the Landis spokesman, has sent out the following clarification what was reported in the Belgian/Dutch interviews. It hasn't been picked up anywhere that we've yet seen.

Floyd is determined to fight the unsubstantiated charges brought against him with the same determination and intensity that he brings to his training and racing. It is his steadfast goal to clear his name and restore what he has worked so hard to achieve. If he is given a fair hearing, then he has every confidence that the result will maintain his long-held innocence. Once he is cleared, he has every intention of returning to racing at the highest level. If Floyd is sanctioned, however, then he does not want to idle away two years of his life only to come back to race in a system that lacks fundamental fairness and has the deep flaws of the one currently in place. He has already been subjected to extremely unfair treatment by the UCI and WADA, who have leveled specious allegations against him in a very public, negative and damaging way.

The anti-doping organizations and the sports bureaucracies have acted with gross misconduct in his case and have not abided by fundamental principles of fairness recognized by WADA's own mission statement. Floyd never wants to go through another experience like this. He feels that the best outcome of his case is that he is proven innocent so that he can return to racing and that the system undergoes fundamental reform so that other athletes are given the rights that have not been extended to him. He is very focused on his case, but he is training with the hope of returning to professional competition. It is his goal and dream to race, and win, the Tour de France again. At the same time, he wants to help all athletes be treated fairly so they are not subject to the whims of a punitive system.

This is consistent with what we thought he was likely to have meant, confused in the articles and translations. There are lessons in the interviews throughout this affair that ought to end up in textbooks for both reporters and news makers.

News
AP via IHT carries the year in doping.

The Cyclingnews is now carrying the clarification that appears above under the title"Landis camp denies retirement rumours" in it's rehash of the Belgian/Dutch press of the weekend.
The same second hand rehashes are still bouncing around, but not the Daily News story.


Convoluted path, but first I've seen-- Lance is quoted as saying,
I do [think Landis is innocent]. I hope he starts the Tour de France in yellow next year, with number 1 on his back.

Found via Abby Normal (Eye-gor, not Eee-gore), who points to a WorldCycling ad that quotes the December Outside Magazine.

The Grauniad has an interview with Armstrong that contains this reference to Landis:
Armstrong vehemently opposed initiatives considered by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) to streamline its testing system.

One measure would change the system to rely solely on one urine sample rather than A and B samples that are cross-checked to ensure the validity of a positive test.

This month the positive test for reigning Tour de France champion Floyd Landis was called into question over a reported administrative error in the labelling of Landis's B sample by the French anti-doping lab in Chatenay-Malabry.

"The need for drug testing is great," Armstrong said. "If the athletes are not protected and respected, and their rights are not protected and respected, then the process will never work. If the athletes don't believe in it, they don't believe they are being treated fairly, then it's all a sham.

Blogs
SanDiego81 from Cornerstone Life attended the David Witt Memorial Cycling Classic yesterday at the San Diego Velodrome and took some great pics. There is also colorful commentary on the proceedings.
The informality of the who thing was quite refreshing. The crowd was invited to come into the infield and mingle with Floyd, Dave, Sarah and all the other racers, which is something I wasn't really expecting. When you see them on TV they're constantly being shuffled off by security and team personnel, but today I stood out on the the apron in the back straight and took pictures as these world-famous pros rode by me less than ten feet away. It was cool. No, I didn't go up and talk to them; there were plenty of other people jockeying for their time, so I just left them alone.

Landis was wearing the livery of Robbie Ventura's coaching company, Vision Quest. He was riding his BMC road bike, and Z-man was on his Cervelo TT machine, perfect steeds for track sprints against each other!

Neil @ Road also attended the Witt Memorial and apparently a good time was had by all, for a good cause.
Floyd and Dave raced each other twice in a three lap match sprint. Landis was on his road bike and Zabriskie with his time trial machine. In the first race, Dave hit the brakes forcing both of them into a track stand. I don’t think Floyd saw that coming. The first race Floyd won by jumping onto the track apron and the second sprint Dave, looking for revenge, took with a blistering sprint from the front position.

Neil concludes with tales of a photo shoot and dinner at Hawthorns.

UltraRob passes on a tantalizing rumour about Landis thinking about doing the Leadville 100 MTB race. It's unsanctioned, and could be Floyd's Mt. Washington hillclimb. Lance was earlier reported to be doing it, so that could be a really fun time.

PJ gets around to the depressing reprints of the same interviews, and picks up the same bad vibe. The best antidotes are Cornerstone's report (above) of the Witt Memorial which sounded like a hoot, and VdB's re-translation of one of the interviews we quoted late yesterday.

Cycling Commentary hopes Landis' background keeps him from ending up like Pantani.

Dan Martin thinks Landis might have been a candidate for SI's sportsman of the year, but for that problem. He's really annoyed that Federer didn't win.

Gods of Sport covered the LAT articles on Dec 11, and ddin''t like what they saw.

French Blog Silverside, translated, reviews the decisive moments of the tour and concludes
It was nevertheless a beautiful Tour taking into account the circumstances. It's a pity that…

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Sunday, December 17, 2006

Sunday Roundup

News
The New York Daily News sports writer Wayne Coffey does an extensive interview with FL at his home in California ....

"On some level (the infamy) will never go away. I think the best result we could hope for here is that the system will change and no one will have to go through this again." Floyd Landis

Coffey does the rounds and picks up some quotes from the other side
a source with in-depth knowledge of WADA's modus operandi and lab protocols disagrees completely with Baker's metabolite interpretation, and doubts the authenticity of his t/e figures. For one thing, Baker's interpretation is based on outdated guidlines, the source says.

"If the numbers are what they say they are, the case wouldn't be going forward. The case is going forward," the source says.

And of course, the ever diplomatic Mr. Pound chips in:
To WADA's Pound, all of these arguments are unpersuasive. "It sounds like Defense 37B to me," he says of the discussion of contamination, and likens the other arguments to a guy who is pulled over for speeding and says, "Officer, why are you stopping me, when there were a whole bunch of people going faster than I was? And the officer says, 'The fact is, you were going over the speed limit.'" Adds Pound, "He has to find some way to overcome the fact that there is an A and B sample that is up to its eyeballs in testosterone."

CyclingNews covers the UK interview.

Blogs
Neil@road has some pix from SD with Landis on the track's derny bike.

Clickz, an advertising blog, talks about trust and how interactive media changes the game, citing Landis' document release.

Florida Maschist quotes AP story and tells Landis to "give it up."

Trav says,
Do I need to feel sorry for Floyd Landis, the American cyclist who won the Tour de France last July but who immediately tested positive for elevated levels of testosterone, suggesting the illegal use of performance enhancing substances? He claims he'll be exhonerated. He claims the tests were wrong and there is a legitimate explanation. He claims the scandal caused the death of his father-in-law. He claims his career is over because of the wrongful accusations. So I wonder, do I need to feel sorry for him? He appears to have cheated and he got caught. Life is like that sometimes.

And HL Mencken wrote, "For every complex problem there is a solution that is simple, neat and wrong". Life is like that too.

Rant catches the drift of our Mencken quote above, and reviews Coffey's Daily News story.

Forums
At DPF, Ciclisto went the the Witt Memorial, and came away convinced The King is Back.

Also at DPF, VDB retranslates the Dutch interview and gets a very different reading than we've heard echoed back in the reports the last two days,
Ok, so I got the time to read the article a little bit better, and Floyd doesn't say that he won't be back. What he does say, however, is that he fears he might not get the chance to become a rider again. And that next season will very likely be a lost cause too, because even though he technically speaking isn't suspended yet, no team will want to sign him right now. Here's my translation of the text:

Landis: "I'm taking up this challenge [fighting the institutions] with the same willpower that made me the best rider in the world. I don't know if I'll ever be a professional rider again. Chances are slim that you'll see me on a bike in 2007, but all that doesn't matter at the moment. What they did to me is just unacceptable. I know they'll keep fighting me until I'm all out of money. Who cares? Money comes and goes. I'm not above getting an everyday job. But if I win this, every rider after me will benefit from it too. That's what keeps me going."

And the last few sentences of the interview:

Landis: "Cycling is just a way of clearing my head at the moment. I ride with the same enthusiasm as a 15-year old, but not really with the idea of becoming a rider again in the near future. Becoming the best rider in the world again is for later. That is, if I get the chance."

The first quote might actually make sense in light of the money-discussion in this thread too. wink.gif And just for fun, Floyd on de Peet (they were on Mercury together)

Landis: "A hell of a rider, even though he was only interested in Het Volk, the Ronde van Vlaanderen and Paris-Roubaix. And he could drink like you wouldn't believe! (grins) A great guy who taught me a lot about Belgian beers. Leffe is my favorite, hands down."

Hey Floyd, care to back up those statements about Van Petegem? laugh.gif It sure sounds like him, but I never did share a beer (or two, or five) with him. Actually pretty funny remark keeping the recent Van Huffel - Peiper spat about beer in mind. happy.gif

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Saturday, December 16, 2006

Saturday Roundup

News BBC Sport quotes what appears to be the same interview cited below...

""Even if I'm proved innocent, my reputation is ruined.This whole affair has ruined my life.

An interview in Het Laatste Nieuws and Gazet van Antwerpen has been filtering back, first on this DPF discussion, then later on this Frech blog (translated), finally in an APF report from VeloNews. Taking no prisoners, Landis will probably not be joining Quick Step. The confusing parts are whether he thinks he'll race again. As I said in the DPF thread, there are probably some context errors in the article and the translation. The first snip says,
But I don't think I will race in 2007. Who wants to have me?

I'm putting all my energy in repairing my name and in the war against a system that gives athletes zero rights.

and the concluding:
And even if I win, I won't be back. In the current system I will never be a rider again."

My reading is that he doesn't think he can win the case quickly and still get a ride this season, and that he thinks the system must change in a significant way for him to ride again in 2008. It is not saying he won't compete again, but that he needs to win the case AND change the power structure to come back. I don't know if I'm that pessimistic -- should he win the case, he could legally come back, and I don't know if the old-boy-network would exclude him as he seems to think. Or maybe he doesn't think he can get motivated in that circumstance.

Also,

There is a LeMonde article reported in this Spanish blog, translated. The blog reads it differently than I did yesterday, but I still don't make sense of it. There is something going on with the WADA UNESCO treaty, with implications of France having not signed on to it yet for the Landis case.

Blogs
John Hawks Weblog entry "Is the Dawn of Gene Doping at Hand?"cites the AP article about WADA and DNA testing with analysis of the testing's actual relevence......
This is the same principle that incriminated Floyd Landis' urine samples -- it wasn't the presence of a high testosterone level, it was the presence of an isotopic signature (supposedly) distinctive to synthetic testosterone.

There is a lot of sense in the piece, suggesting WADA is drumming up FUD to justify funding. Hawks notes that someone who is good enough to genetically hack athletes would also be a candidate for a Nobel prize for medicine, and untold riches for curing various diseases. A good argument would be that the money WADA is spending on genetic doping research would be better spent on improving existing tests, doing large population studies to really validate existing tests, and improve supervision and harmonization of the labs. Not to mention learning what "due process" means. But none of that is as sexy as chasing hypothetical genetic dopers.

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Friday, December 15, 2006

Friday Roundup

News
Le Monde [FIXED LINK] talks about the case, here in machine translation (Marc is disconnected for the holidays). They say there's no resolution of the case, that Landis has gotten documents on file in the French case. They're frustrated by the case, and compare to Landaluze which is still not resolved. Then they change gears and talk about adoption of the WADA convention by UNESCO, which has some implications that are not clear to me, as the US has not signed on.

TAF notes in a comment there is sort of an acknowledgment that the hack/whistleblower/rat documents are authentic. My possibly improved translation of the relevant part of the sidebar:

[The emails] were taken following a data-processing intrusion. According to a source close to the investigation, the “hacker” would have used a Trojan horse and spent one month on the servers of the LNDD in order to get the supposed documents to call into question the reliability of the laboratory.

In which the "supposed" makes no sense at all, unless they are real; if they were fakes, there would be no need to get into the servers, you could just make them up. Further, there has been no denial by anyone, either LNDD, Bordry, or the recipient Federations and Agencies of the authenticity of the content. A reason for this might be that if they deny it, and are then shown to be lying, which would be bad; but they don't want to admit they are real either, so no comment is best. Could a motion to authenticate them to the AAA arbitration panel have any traction? Then we'd get to see what was "forged" and what was "taken out of context", as they were described originally. No one has yet released copies of these documents for examination, so we don't really know what the fuss is about yet. Go over to Rant's discussion of last week for what nitty-gritty we do know.

Procycling's latest news includes a blurb about the LNDD upgrade in computer security and a very odd mention of the David Witt Memorial cycling event scheduled for Sunday. They talk extensively about Dave Zabriskie's attempt that day to set a mark for an American hour record. He'll succeed unless he falls off the bike, because there is no existing record. Procycling doesn't mention that it's the David Witt Memorial, or Landis, Hammer, Roll, Ventura...
"A couple of months back some fire fighters perished in a forest fire in the Los Angeles area," he said. "This time record is part of a big event to raise money for their families.

”It's not so much a cycling event, but more an event to raise some money and the audience has been informed of the fact that I've just flown in from South Africa the day before, so regardless of my efforts they will be cheering, I hope." Apart from Zabriskie, a couple of athletes and some other celebrities will also be participating.

Daily Peloton started out running the exact same story, which was the CSC press release, then updated it with more event info. (We've been flogging it all week.)


VeloNews talks about camp for Team BMC in Mill Valley CA, owned by Andy Rihs (Phonak), and featuring Alexandre Moos. Also on hand was Jim Ochowicz. This is a "Continental" team; don't know what their schedule is.

Blogs
Rant offers some sample letters to send to representatives, prefaced with with his sense of the realistic goals. He had such a good time, he wrote another one. Variety is good.

The Monroe News blog talks about their top 10 stories of the year, and Landis doesn't make the list.

Spinopsys, an Ozzie, rates McEwen as his #1 high for the year, and the Landis affair as #1 low, which he does without belaboring guilt.

Dugard has no Landis news, but does talk about the song Mrs. TBV is playing a lot in the car lately. Baby!

Forums
There is some discussion at DPF of a paper in Blood Journal and subsequent letters concerning the reliability of the EPO tests. The interesting bit to Landis followers is the part in the letters about different labs having different positivity criteria, contradicting what Catlin says.


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