tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post8670385209417219116..comments2023-10-06T03:21:26.130-07:00Comments on trust but verify: Hearing - Thurs LemondDBrowerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17718913310467614671noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-12610049868618527232007-05-17T15:08:00.000-07:002007-05-17T15:08:00.000-07:00good choice to pull the play-by-play TBV. i wouldn...good choice to pull the play-by-play TBV. i wouldn't want to see your (and your companions) thus far heroic effort, get covered in s__<BR/><BR/>there is an expression "Don't wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig loves it." Not sure who is playin g the pig in all this... but somehow i feel it applies.<BR/><BR/>JasonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-78423455939757213832007-05-17T14:41:00.000-07:002007-05-17T14:41:00.000-07:00I tend to go along with Jason. This is the type o...I tend to go along with Jason. This is the type of "non-analytical positive" that Pound would like to be able to use. <BR/><BR/>USADA/WADA has to feel pretty shaky about their science and/or out to simply destory Landis with whatever they can find as a tool.<BR/><BR/>Over the past couple years Lemnd has appeared to be a bitter ex-hero who blames hsi eclipse on everyone else doping. Given that I would consider the source, his bias and interpretation. It is sensational but it doesn't have much bearing on how LNDD conducts testing and interprets results. <BR/><BR/>This is a type of testimony that, if revealed through discovery, would be put through the test of whether its probitive value outweighed its sensatinoalism. that said, I am confident that "the majority" would certainly have let it in. But Landis would have had the opportunity to examine records, etc. and be prepared to handle it. <BR/><BR/>This is going to make headlines, not the lab tech's admission that she used her own judgment to adjust the computer/equipment's results.<BR/><BR/>Appears that Jacobs is tryingt to attack Lemond's credibility by bringing in testomony of other bizarre assertions by him and the Chair had cut it off and it has gone off for a vote fo the panel. Here's where we see if "the majority" continues to run the train. This is the type of trial by surprise that I feared.<BR/>pcrosbyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-5338269774243007342007-05-17T14:34:00.000-07:002007-05-17T14:34:00.000-07:00I don't see how anyone can support Floyd after thi...I don't see how anyone can support Floyd after this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-29916525409584521682007-05-17T14:19:00.000-07:002007-05-17T14:19:00.000-07:00This is B_S_You don't need hearsay if you have fac...This is B_S_<BR/><BR/>You don't need hearsay if you have facts. If the USADA had facts and documented processes to support the case, they wouldn't feel compelled to drag GL and FL through the gutter. They both may deserve the gutter but that is not at issue. The question is whether FL doped and can the "process" support it. If not WADA/USADA/LNDD all failed their purpose. Just as FL may have failed in his judgement.<BR/><BR/>JasonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-55441345180362061452007-05-17T14:16:00.000-07:002007-05-17T14:16:00.000-07:00This is not hearsay. To be hearsay it would have t...This is not hearsay. To be hearsay it would have to be used to prove that someone would actually be playing with his weenie. Here, it is just being used to show that a call was made.<BR/><BR/>Also, arbitrations allow hearsay to be admitted because the arbs are "professional" and can differentiate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-84927777696670051952007-05-17T14:15:00.001-07:002007-05-17T14:15:00.001-07:00This is all very distressing. Could Mr. Jacobs di...This is all very distressing. Could Mr. Jacobs discredit GL's testimony without having to go into detail about how GL has issues about no longer being the top dog? As in, FL's remarks don't specifically say he doped, now do they, that's just your interpretation. And we are so sorry USADA asked you to come here under such distressing circumstances as their case is so weak they are grasping at hearsay.<BR/><BR/>As for the telephone call -- UGH, YUCK, UGH.Cheryl from Marylandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09410608438374264074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-79463548782414429042007-05-17T14:15:00.000-07:002007-05-17T14:15:00.000-07:00Will, you are an idiot.Will, you are an idiot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-75850183144271257232007-05-17T14:12:00.000-07:002007-05-17T14:12:00.000-07:00If Floyd wants to win in the court of public opini...If Floyd wants to win in the court of public opinion, he needs to seriously consider what kind of people he is associating with.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-35848576445448062032007-05-17T14:10:00.000-07:002007-05-17T14:10:00.000-07:00USADA joins the race to the bottom.USADA joins the race to the bottom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-1318562462156916802007-05-17T14:07:00.001-07:002007-05-17T14:07:00.001-07:00a sad day for american cycling. was this really ne...a sad day for american cycling. was this really necessary?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-66279980353109728292007-05-17T14:07:00.000-07:002007-05-17T14:07:00.000-07:00Anyone remember last year, when Greg Lemond claime...Anyone remember last year, when Greg Lemond claimed that Lance Armstrong called his home and threatened his wife's life? He's rather hard to believe, for me, at this point, after his erratic behavior for the last few years. Now he comes and really doesn't have much testimony besides some hearsay and claims that more people are threatening him.<BR/><BR/>Why is he telling Floyd to "let his secret out - it'll make you feel better" when he supposedly never let his out until today?<BR/><BR/>Whatever. If his testimony is true, it's horrible. If it's false, it's horrible. Thanks for showing up again, Greg. I used to really look up to him...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-16945297603246306102007-05-17T14:06:00.000-07:002007-05-17T14:06:00.000-07:00This could be a crime and if Floyd knew or made Wi...This could be a crime and if Floyd knew or made Will make the call, it could be conspiracy. Just what the USADA needed. Nice going Will.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-19140044263878231842007-05-17T14:00:00.000-07:002007-05-17T14:00:00.000-07:00Anonymous,This is about entering hearsay into the ...Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>This is about entering hearsay into the record of what amounts to a subtle confession, or so GL says. Also, the apparent existence of a childish, prank call from Landis' agent. How said and gutter-like. No substance but inflammatory nonetheless.<BR/><BR/>BillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-37984418164698413632007-05-17T13:55:00.000-07:002007-05-17T13:55:00.000-07:00I'm not clear on what the point of all this is. Wh...I'm not clear on what the point of all this is. What does any of this have to do with whether or not Landis failed a drug test ?<BR/><BR/>What am I missing ?<BR/><BR/>cleducAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-4846190385935289792007-05-17T13:46:00.000-07:002007-05-17T13:46:00.000-07:00is that FL's cell phone number being displayed to ...is that FL's cell phone number being displayed to the whole world???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-32656340627157702852007-05-17T13:45:00.000-07:002007-05-17T13:45:00.000-07:00Who is William Goegan (spelling?), and is he usual...Who is William Goegan (spelling?), and is he usually a scumbag?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com