tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post8254223964364057456..comments2023-10-06T03:21:26.130-07:00Comments on trust but verify: Hearing Tuesday - Mongongu, maybe this timeDBrowerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17718913310467614671noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-60555097588773067532007-05-15T14:17:00.000-07:002007-05-15T14:17:00.000-07:00I agree with DB. Perhaps a journalist will do som...I agree with DB. Perhaps a journalist will do some follow up with the initial Translator in order to verify their credentials. The pattern of obstruction if not outright deception is beginning to show itself. It might be interesting to know the qualifications of the Translator and if in fact that person was hired by USDA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-40506769505982878132007-05-15T14:08:00.000-07:002007-05-15T14:08:00.000-07:00You3 said...The obvious area of exploration is whe...You3 said...<BR/><BR/>The obvious area of exploration is whether there were any activities with the B sample that crossed the line of the same operator for the A and B sample.<BR/><BR/>The second area of exploration is all of the non-SOP activities for the A sample. What really happened with the incomplete ion binding for the screening test? Why was the intial confirmation test in error on the quantification? Why was there a 2nd screening test? Were the errors corrected before proceeding to the next test? Why was there no check for unconjugated E and T in the 2nd confirmation test?<BR/><BR/>What communications and managerial direction occurred as the lab was racing to shut down for vacation?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-42498833617230680092007-05-15T14:03:00.000-07:002007-05-15T14:03:00.000-07:00It's working fine for me, Sara. Hopefully we'll ha...It's working fine for me, Sara. Hopefully we'll have live video tomorrow. At least, with the abbreviated testimony today, it's easy to catch up with the video. Thanks to TBV for the transcriptions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-12740282236508174302007-05-15T13:57:00.000-07:002007-05-15T13:57:00.000-07:00Im having a lot of troble trying to watch this mor...Im having a lot of troble trying to watch this mornings hearing, it seems to be buffering all the time, so l hear or see only few seconds at a time? anyone else have problems with that?<BR/><BR/>And a HUGE thank you for TBV, and Rant, for keeping us posted, great!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-55435218081454521432007-05-15T13:55:00.000-07:002007-05-15T13:55:00.000-07:00Let's hope USADA runs as well as Amtrak northeast ...Let's hope USADA runs as well as Amtrak northeast does. :)<BR/><BR/>Thanks TBV, Bill, strbk...we are hanging on every post here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-9491236507511600472007-05-15T13:51:00.000-07:002007-05-15T13:51:00.000-07:00pcrosby,Gotta keep the trains running on time!;-)-...pcrosby,<BR/><BR/>Gotta keep the trains running on time!<BR/><BR/>;-)<BR/><BR/><BR/>- Rantdaniel m (a/k/a Rant)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16126545986721397012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-10247020507608423542007-05-15T13:48:00.001-07:002007-05-15T13:48:00.001-07:00This is really fascinating, TBV. There are people ...This is really fascinating, TBV. There are people all around the world hanging onto your every keystroke (hope that doesn't induce any anxiety related typos).<BR/><BR/>USADA don't appear to be as slick as I imagined they would. Conversely, the Landis camp is coming across as extremely professional and thorough. Hope things continue in this vein ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-91935723142193174962007-05-15T13:48:00.000-07:002007-05-15T13:48:00.000-07:00Yet another factor to consider - time is being eat...Yet another factor to consider - time is being eaten up and I very much doubt that the majority of the panel is going to want to modify the railroad schedule.<BR/>pcrosbyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-28818663023633098492007-05-15T13:41:00.000-07:002007-05-15T13:41:00.000-07:00You assume USADA wants these witnesses to be able ...You assume USADA wants these witnesses to be able to give testimony, and be cross-examined. If the direct is hopeless, how good can the cross be? It's perfect -- you produce them to appear cooperative, then make it impossible to get anything out of them.<BR/><BR/>-dBDBrowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17718913310467614671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-88662131739054817092007-05-15T13:35:00.000-07:002007-05-15T13:35:00.000-07:00I agree, this seems to be very bad translating.. B...I agree, this seems to be very bad translating.. But on the other hand, its not an easy taskto translate these scientic things, but if you mix even simply things together then what can you ecpect when the very important science comes in??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-48107947573230875272007-05-15T13:31:00.000-07:002007-05-15T13:31:00.000-07:00You would think USADA would want the intepreter to...You would think USADA would want the intepreter to be very accurate. Otherwise, it will be easy for Jacobs/Suh to make her look completely imcomptent and unable to perform the test properly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-29729651636718351472007-05-15T13:30:00.000-07:002007-05-15T13:30:00.000-07:00Is it just me, or are Suh/Jacobs going to make USA...Is it just me, or are Suh/Jacobs going to make USADA regret not letting them depose these French witnesses? Imagine the amount of time that could've been saved if both sides knew more about what the answers were ahead of time.<BR/><BR/>As it is, the Landis team has to listen carefully and build their rebuttal on the fly, meaning they can't afford any ambiguity in translation. This is getting painful.<BR/><BR/>NomadAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-10392754818647430642007-05-15T13:29:00.000-07:002007-05-15T13:29:00.000-07:00So much for issues concerning the qualifications o...So much for issues concerning the qualifications of the translator. From the post it appears that the Chair was explaining or directing the translator on technical language and then there is a major possible screw up. Can't tell if it was the witness who corrected herself or if it was the translator who did it. From the impact it sounds like the translator made an error. <BR/><BR/> I would think that the California trial courts have lists of approved translators. I wonder if they even thought to draw on that. Aside: saw an article on an Iraqi who was used by U.S. Forces as a translator and made it to the states. Found that the process of qualifying as a court translator was far more rigorous. <BR/>pcrosbyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-57070165700369922882007-05-15T13:24:00.000-07:002007-05-15T13:24:00.000-07:00What are the potential weaknesses with these lab t...What are the potential weaknesses with these lab techs? Anything other than a Landaluze type error (where one person was overly involved in confirming his/her own work, thus invalidating the test)?<BR/><BR/>Will Suh/Jacobs try to allege tampering by people at this level, or will that come at some other stage with higher level input?<BR/><BR/>I wonder if Suh/Jacobs will ask them directly if they are the leak to L'Equipe?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com