tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post4702696666167572717..comments2023-10-06T03:21:26.130-07:00Comments on trust but verify: Integration for Idiots: Part IV: Three peaksDBrowerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17718913310467614671noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-67293115943351292882007-11-06T19:02:00.000-08:002007-11-06T19:02:00.000-08:00Hatefrench - Dr. Brenna's comments on the blank re...Hatefrench - Dr. Brenna's comments on the blank reprocessing are on page 179 of the official transcript.<BR/><BR/>TBV - All eight of the 5alpha androstandiol-5beta pregnandiol reprocessed differences exceeded <BR/>-5.5 per mil. The reprocessing was requested by Floyd's side.<BR/><BR/>Four of the other seven samples had differences in excess of -4.6 per mil. The integration on those samples was done automatically by Masslynx. <BR/><BR/>I believed Floyd until I studied the evidence last spring.BustinBillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11888737601383744232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-87802504759471129032007-11-06T18:08:00.000-08:002007-11-06T18:08:00.000-08:00TBV,A great exercise, but how do we get this out t...TBV,<BR/><BR/>A great exercise, but how do we get this out to the public.<BR/><BR/>And does it prove that Floyd is innocent or falsely accused? If so, who'd going to care but us?<BR/><BR/>Thanks,<BR/><BR/>MikeAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05043995499810157859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-55600594750022489322007-11-06T17:24:00.000-08:002007-11-06T17:24:00.000-08:00Timm,The official results in the LDP were manually...Timm,<BR/><BR/>The official results in the LDP were manually adjusted, for what Brenna called "QA purposes".<BR/><BR/>There was a "reprocessing" of data in April that ran the same data sets on the other machine in various modes, including "full auto"<BR/><BR/>Different people draw different conclusions from the results of the processing and reprocessing -- not surprisingly in line with their mind-sets going in.<BR/><BR/>TBVDBrowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17718913310467614671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-24474882247314735922007-11-06T17:19:00.000-08:002007-11-06T17:19:00.000-08:00HF, go to the transcripts page, where the index s...HF, go to the <A HREF="http://trustbut.blogspot.com/2007/06/hearing-official-transcripts.html" REL="nofollow"> transcripts page</A>, where the index shows Brenna's direct on the 14th at PDF page 126, and cross at PDF 189, more cross on the 15th at PDF 225, redirect at PDF 261, and recross at PDF 269.<BR/><BR/>If you want to see and hear it, go to the <BR/><A HREF="http://trustbut.blogspot.com/2007/05/hearing-video-archives.html" REL="nofollow"> video archives</A>.<BR/><BR/>TBVDBrowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17718913310467614671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-47623152095999688262007-11-06T16:38:00.000-08:002007-11-06T16:38:00.000-08:00bustinbilly, or anybody who knows,could you please...bustinbilly, or anybody who knows,<BR/><BR/>could you please give the reference of Brennas testimony, I cannot recall that part and would like to read it. ThanksPhosphorylasekinasehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07946908227697534490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-18997871470526730082007-11-06T16:25:00.000-08:002007-11-06T16:25:00.000-08:00I thought the samples were processed by eye with t...I thought the samples were processed by eye with the ladies "using their experience"? Is the Masslynx software the state of the art program that they were running on that state of the art OS that IBM discontinued a decade or so ago? Maybe I am confused!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16789230727614362007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-85510498248723324302007-11-06T13:01:00.000-08:002007-11-06T13:01:00.000-08:00Billy, you said:Yes the reprocessing integration w...Billy, you said:<BR/><I><BR/>Yes the reprocessing integration was done automatically by state-of-the-art Masslynx software. Those 5alpha androstandiol-5beta pregnandiol differences were even greater.<BR/><BR/>The integration for the other seven samples was also done automatically by Masslynx.</I><BR/><BR/><BR/>Thanks! As with Larry's comments yesterday, you have anticipated the point to be made in Part V. Well done.DBrowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17718913310467614671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-29267550254503794302007-11-06T12:40:00.000-08:002007-11-06T12:40:00.000-08:00Kevin - Dr. Thomas Brenna testified that the B sam...Kevin - Dr. Thomas Brenna testified that the B sample 5alpha androstandiol-5beta pregnandiol blank reprocessing number resulted from an error in data transfer. He testified that Dr. Simon Davis agreed to pull the result out. Dr. Brenna was surprised to see the number in court. <BR/><BR/>Mike - I don't know how the Masslynx algorithms work. All parties appeared to have confidence in the software.BustinBillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11888737601383744232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-12941843170561627572007-11-06T12:23:00.000-08:002007-11-06T12:23:00.000-08:00So, how does the Masslynx make decisions about whe...So, how does the Masslynx make decisions about where the peaks should begin and end?<BR/><BR/>syiMike Solberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11784753552166129987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-53310432392923887842007-11-06T12:19:00.000-08:002007-11-06T12:19:00.000-08:00Bustin Billy,And in the reprocessed samples a numb...Bustin Billy,<BR/>And in the reprocessed samples a number of the urine blanks were also positive for exogenous testosterone, and all of them were badly biased in a direction towards a positive finding. Not a great argument for a robust procedure.<BR/>DuckstrapDuckstraphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03565769643958227788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-5375167529359494692007-11-06T11:56:00.000-08:002007-11-06T11:56:00.000-08:00Yes the reprocessing integration was done automati...Yes the reprocessing integration was done automatically by state-of-the-art Masslynx software. Those 5alpha androstandiol-5beta pregnandiol differences were even greater. <BR/><BR/>The integration for the other seven samples was also done automatically by Masslynx.BustinBillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11888737601383744232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-77822248533021054992007-11-06T08:15:00.000-08:002007-11-06T08:15:00.000-08:00Well, now, this is very interesting!One of the thi...Well, now, this is very interesting!<BR/><BR/>One of the things some people have argued is that if there was some type of co-eluting peak, it would have to have a lower (more negative) CIR in order to make the target CIR lower/more negative. But you are showing that that isn't true. Very interesting.<BR/><BR/>So, how did LNDD make decisions about where the peaks should begin and end? Team Landis did pay a lot of attention to that, right? Isn't that what the whole "reprocessing" effort was about?<BR/><BR/>syiMike Solberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11784753552166129987noreply@blogger.com