tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post1999186184797501373..comments2023-10-06T03:21:26.130-07:00Comments on trust but verify: Thursday RoundupDBrowerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17718913310467614671noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-27378414274710875412007-05-31T15:54:00.000-07:002007-05-31T15:54:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-22212343141413433392007-05-31T15:53:00.000-07:002007-05-31T15:53:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-27028409084265485262007-05-31T15:52:00.000-07:002007-05-31T15:52:00.000-07:00He left a bunch of names and teams, but no reasons...He left a bunch of names and teams, but no reasons. That's not a contribution to a discussion, but graffiti. It's gone.<BR/><BR/>TBVDBrowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17718913310467614671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-79887131385750583542007-05-31T15:42:00.000-07:002007-05-31T15:42:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-59599149482184545672007-05-31T14:45:00.000-07:002007-05-31T14:45:00.000-07:00ANON 12:16,Like the other posters said. Go ahead ...ANON 12:16,<BR/><BR/>Like the other posters said. Go ahead and tell us the riders name and how/why you know this.<BR/><BR/>Thanks,<BR/><BR/>MikeAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05043995499810157859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-35489248239746706312007-05-31T14:44:00.000-07:002007-05-31T14:44:00.000-07:00Reading the procedings here, I realise how many co...Reading the procedings here, I realise how many commentators havn't bothered to educate themselves on the science and history of this doping testing lark. I'm so tired of reading the same uneducated comments about what the results mean. Why can't people just accept that they don't have a scooby about the science but they have a gut feeling (BTW scooby = scooby 'doo' = rhyming slang with 'clue').<BR/><BR/>Anybody who can't recognise this farce as the travesty of justice it represents, needs a slap round the side of the face. They must be brain washed, preprogrammed gun fodder. My advice is bring on the next war, introduce conscription and we can restore natures natural balance ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-90162365874515504092007-05-31T14:01:00.000-07:002007-05-31T14:01:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-46654582994349290212007-05-31T13:54:00.000-07:002007-05-31T13:54:00.000-07:00PCrosby, did you get the mail I sent the other day...PCrosby, did you get the mail I sent the other day?<BR/><BR/>TBVDBrowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17718913310467614671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-51466005165696235852007-05-31T13:48:00.001-07:002007-05-31T13:48:00.001-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-29481286326976485082007-05-31T13:48:00.000-07:002007-05-31T13:48:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-72546731831581452542007-05-31T13:47:00.000-07:002007-05-31T13:47:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-91278051378468699882007-05-31T13:46:00.000-07:002007-05-31T13:46:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-86016894279689736012007-05-31T13:45:00.001-07:002007-05-31T13:45:00.001-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-43278851945067779722007-05-31T13:45:00.000-07:002007-05-31T13:45:00.000-07:00Judge Hue, thank you for the blow by blow descript...Judge Hue, thank you for the blow by blow description of what happened when Jacobs tried to cross examine Lemond. It really clarifies the situation. I agree with you that Jacobs made the appropriate judgment call. One of the elements impacting that decision that has not been mentioned is that the clock was running against Landis. I do not think that Young had yet made his offer to give time to the Landis side. A large amount of time would have been consumed asking Lemond questions, having him refuse to answer and Lemond's attorney direct him not to answer, etc., etc.<BR/><BR/>Comment asking for an expert response. Given that most PED's have significant side effects, I assume that there is little if any peer reviewed research on the use of such drugs by healthy people, much less athletes. I worked briefly in a University Research Administration office and I would find it hard to believe that a review panel would let any study go forward even with "informed consent." Given that, I assume that there is even less (an imaginary number I guess) research on testing for PED's in athletes. A related question is if there ever has been any peer reviewed research dealing with the blood chemistry and background levels of relevant compounds in elite athletes. Seems that such background studies would be needed to set thresh holds for a positive test result.<BR/>pcrosbyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-24373139651648959902007-05-31T13:44:00.000-07:002007-05-31T13:44:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-70010041830971047572007-05-31T13:22:00.000-07:002007-05-31T13:22:00.000-07:00Our friend did post some articles for our reader's...Our friend did post some articles for our reader's review and i edited out the juvenile stuff but left in the article html's and his final editorial.<BR/>BillLaura Challoner, DVMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00606828463436614790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-46163107506642218892007-05-31T13:14:00.000-07:002007-05-31T13:14:00.000-07:00Edited Post 1:38Sandro Donati speaks to blood dopi...Edited Post 1:38<BR/><BR/>Sandro Donati speaks to blood doping methods here<BR/>http://www.ergogenics.org/donati.html<BR/><BR/>Doping the U-23 athletes at USCF (Lance's alums) at age 17!<BR/>http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/04/10/60II/main284958.shtml<BR/><BR/>A Pharmacy on Wheels (TDF Doping Sacndals)<BR/>http://www.thinkmuscle.com/articles/hoberman/tour.htm<BR/><BR/>The Landis case is a tiny spec of dirt in a pharma-based sport.Laura Challoner, DVMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00606828463436614790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-50040472382184000102007-05-31T13:08:00.000-07:002007-05-31T13:08:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-81205620053916788012007-05-31T12:56:00.000-07:002007-05-31T12:56:00.000-07:00I concur with TBV. The stuff I personally delete c...I concur with TBV. The stuff I personally delete can be described as juvenile, at best.<BR/><BR/>If you post in good faith in a constructive manner, no matter what side of the issue you are on, we won't delete it.<BR/><BR/>Seriously.Laura Challoner, DVMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00606828463436614790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-68816372629400461852007-05-31T12:46:00.000-07:002007-05-31T12:46:00.000-07:00Anon 12:16, you're unlikely to be deleted if you a...Anon 12:16, you're unlikely to be deleted if you aren't intentionally inflammatory, and introduce information with citations that can be used to further a discussion.<BR/><BR/>If you want to refere to a power-training pro who demonstrated a 20% power gain on measurements, I'm sure we'd love to see a reference and citation.<BR/><BR/>If you bring up Lemond's anecdotal "30%" claims and the graph from the french magazine, even those won't be deleted, but they are probably more controversial assertions and analyses.<BR/><BR/>It is the plethora of variations on "X is a bad person; Y is a bad person; Z is a cheat; and you are all idiots in denial" that get the instant axe.<BR/><BR/>TBVDBrowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17718913310467614671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-15279890680502922432007-05-31T12:39:00.000-07:002007-05-31T12:39:00.000-07:00I think the Arbitration panel probably has a good ...I think the Arbitration panel probably has a good understanding of Greg LeMond and his bitter little war with any US cyclist that wins the TDF and moves him down the history chain. I love the comment by LeMond when he stated that any time a US cyclist is involved in a scandal or possible scandal he is immediately contacted for comments! Hey Greg, try this: "No Comment"! It can't be that hard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-11559444422878730652007-05-31T12:32:00.000-07:002007-05-31T12:32:00.000-07:00Check out this article . .. very interesting from ...Check out this article . .. very interesting from Lancaster Newspapers.<BR/><BR/>http://local.lancasteronline.com/4/205004Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-2807038595197151032007-05-31T12:21:00.001-07:002007-05-31T12:21:00.001-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-22933900540292716022007-05-31T12:21:00.000-07:002007-05-31T12:21:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31819641.post-42051284559929726422007-05-31T12:19:00.000-07:002007-05-31T12:19:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com